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Apple feels its position is now strong enough that it can dictate terms.

tomjen3 16y ago
Considering that almost nothing happened when the iphone was released on Verizon, Apple is at an extremely weak position and can not only not dictate terms but they are very far from being at a point where they can.
- marshray 16y ago
  Perhaps it really does reflect Jobs' weakness, or maybe he's behind it all too. Man if it were my business I sure wouldn't want to risk pissing off developers or the consumers right now: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-will-smartphone-market-share-figures-be-impacted-by-launch-of-verizon-iphone/44349 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-will-smartphone-market-sha...
kenjackson 16y ago
Funny how everyone used to say that Apple was benevolent due to their actions in the PC space. My argument was always they've never been in a position to really be aggressive. Now that they are in a borderline position they are quickly being a lot less benevolent. Does anyone honestly think if they had 90% PC/browser share they'd be "nicer" than Microsoft?
- marshray 16y ago
  Apple is the company that has their police raid journalist's homes and confiscate all his computers because their dumbass engineer left his special phone in a bar. Say what you want about Microsoft, they never stooped to the level of _actual_ fascist Nazi crap like that.
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    - marshray 16y ago
      Apparently the local police do their bidding. Perhaps you heard about: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003446-37.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003446-37.html Widely denounced as unjust.
  - foljs 16y ago
    <b>Apple is the company that has their police raid journalist's homes and confiscate all his computers because their dumbass engineer left his special phone in a bar.</b> So, a) if you were working on a prototype product, b) and a dumb ass engineer of your company left it at a bar, where c) a guy illegally took it (and even more possibly outright STOLE IT) and illegally sold the stolen prototype to a journalist d) the journalist published an article revealing all the details of the new product (and making boat loads of cache in the process) you would NOT have reported this to the police?!!! (Oh, and the police takes orders from Apple now, not the D.A.? You are sure that the police wouldn't have raided the home of any journalist buying stolen prototypes worth millions of dollars if it was for any random company?)

Considering that almost nothing happened when the iphone was released on Verizon, Apple is at an extremely weak position and can not only not dictate terms but they are very far from being at a point where they can.

marshray 16y ago
Perhaps it really does reflect Jobs' weakness, or maybe he's behind it all too. Man if it were my business I sure wouldn't want to risk pissing off developers or the consumers right now: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-will-smartphone-market-share-figures-be-impacted-by-launch-of-verizon-iphone/44349 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-will-smartphone-market-sha...

kenjackson 16y ago

Funny how everyone used to say that Apple was benevolent due to their actions in the PC space. My argument was always they've never been in a position to really be aggressive. Now that they are in a borderline position they are quickly being a lot less benevolent. Does anyone honestly think if they had 90% PC/browser share they'd be "nicer" than Microsoft?

marshray 16y ago
Apple is the company that has their police raid journalist's homes and confiscate all his computers because their dumbass engineer left his special phone in a bar. Say what you want about Microsoft, they never stooped to the level of _actual_ fascist Nazi crap like that.
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  - marshray 16y ago
    Apparently the local police do their bidding. Perhaps you heard about: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003446-37.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003446-37.html Widely denounced as unjust.
- foljs 16y ago
  <b>Apple is the company that has their police raid journalist's homes and confiscate all his computers because their dumbass engineer left his special phone in a bar.</b> So, a) if you were working on a prototype product, b) and a dumb ass engineer of your company left it at a bar, where c) a guy illegally took it (and even more possibly outright STOLE IT) and illegally sold the stolen prototype to a journalist d) the journalist published an article revealing all the details of the new product (and making boat loads of cache in the process) you would NOT have reported this to the police?!!! (Oh, and the police takes orders from Apple now, not the D.A.? You are sure that the police wouldn't have raided the home of any journalist buying stolen prototypes worth millions of dollars if it was for any random company?)