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I am inclined to believe this is accurate, however I don’t know anything about the organization producing the report. Can anyone fill me in in regards to their

I am inclined to believe this is accurate, however I don’t know anything about the organization producing the report. Can anyone fill me in in regards to their credibility?

thisrod 7y ago
As the name suggests, the "Australian Strategic Policy Institute" is a think tank for Australia's armed forces. It would save the outright lies for special occasions like 2003. On the other hand, it doesn't pretend to take a neutral point of view. The strategic subtext is to warn Australia's neighbours that "them as makes muslim slaves of Uigurs, want to make ... oh, hang on, we keep forgetting that you're muslim as well ... slaves of you." Which warning will be all the more effective because it's quite possibly true.
- dirtyid 7y ago
  To add, Australia is caught between US and Chinese interest, US for security, Chinese for trade. ASPI is nominally aligned with US interests, receives funding from US State Department and is one of the largest proponents of China threat theory in Australian foreign policy. I wouldn't say their work is bad per say, but exceedingly one-sided in narrative. As long as that's understood. >Former NSW premier Bob Carr has accused it of pumping out a “one-sided, pro-American view of the world”. Veteran foreign editor Tony Walker has slammed its "dystopian worldview" which "leaves little room for viewing China as a potential partner". "It lacks integrity and brings shame to Australia," says retired former DFAT chief and ex-Qantas CEO John Menadue. “I see it as very much the architect of the China threat theory in Australia”, adds ex-ambassador to China turned Beijing-based business consultant Geoff Raby. >The rhetoric is extreme. And says much about how Australia’s consensus on China has dissolved. ... >ASPI's annual reports list alternate funding sources. Sponsors from its most recent can be divided into three buckets. >The first is filled with defence contractors such as Lockheed Martin, BAE, Northrop Grumman, Thales and Raytheon. The second, technology companies like Microsoft, Oracle Australia, Telstra, and Google. And lastly, there are the contributions from foreign governments, many being strategic competitors to China, including the Embassy of Japan and the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office (that is, Taiwan). https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/the-think-tank-behind-australia-s-changing-view-of-china-20200131-p53wgp https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/the-think-tank-be... I'm not going to label them as propaganda,they do some good work like collating data on Chinese firms abroad, but their analysis isn't neutral. They're certainly not as lolbad as ChinaTribunal and all the Falungong funded organ harvesting studies that's been spamming the internet since tradewar started.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> I am inclined to believe this is accurate You shouldn't. Almost everything ughyur and xinjiang related has pretty much been shown to be propaganda and from highly questionable sources. You should be inclined towards skepticism. > however I don’t know anything about the organization producing the report. It's literally australian government/defense propaganda. "The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) is a non-partisan defence and strategic policy think tank based in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, founded by the Australian government and partly funded by the Australian Department of Defence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Strategic_Policy_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Strategic_Policy_In... Not saying the treatment of ughyurs are good or bad, but the first casualty in every war is the truth. The more interesting question is how does government propaganda make it to the frontpage without much pushback?
- _bxg1 7y ago
  > Almost everything ughyur and xinjiang related has pretty much been shown to be propaganda and from highly questionable sources Do you have any evidence for that whatsoever? In contrast, here's a very thorough look from an established news source: https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ

I am inclined to believe this is accurate, however I don’t know anything about the organization producing the report. Can anyone fill me in in regards to their credibility?

thisrod 7y ago

As the name suggests, the "Australian Strategic Policy Institute" is a think tank for Australia's armed forces. It would save the outright lies for special occasions like 2003. On the other hand, it doesn't pretend to take a neutral point of view. The strategic subtext is to warn Australia's neighbours that "them as makes muslim slaves of Uigurs, want to make ... oh, hang on, we keep forgetting that you're muslim as well ... slaves of you." Which warning will be all the more effective because it's quite possibly true.

dirtyid 7y ago
To add, Australia is caught between US and Chinese interest, US for security, Chinese for trade. ASPI is nominally aligned with US interests, receives funding from US State Department and is one of the largest proponents of China threat theory in Australian foreign policy. I wouldn't say their work is bad per say, but exceedingly one-sided in narrative. As long as that's understood. >Former NSW premier Bob Carr has accused it of pumping out a “one-sided, pro-American view of the world”. Veteran foreign editor Tony Walker has slammed its "dystopian worldview" which "leaves little room for viewing China as a potential partner". "It lacks integrity and brings shame to Australia," says retired former DFAT chief and ex-Qantas CEO John Menadue. “I see it as very much the architect of the China threat theory in Australia”, adds ex-ambassador to China turned Beijing-based business consultant Geoff Raby. >The rhetoric is extreme. And says much about how Australia’s consensus on China has dissolved. ... >ASPI's annual reports list alternate funding sources. Sponsors from its most recent can be divided into three buckets. >The first is filled with defence contractors such as Lockheed Martin, BAE, Northrop Grumman, Thales and Raytheon. The second, technology companies like Microsoft, Oracle Australia, Telstra, and Google. And lastly, there are the contributions from foreign governments, many being strategic competitors to China, including the Embassy of Japan and the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office (that is, Taiwan). https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/the-think-tank-behind-australia-s-changing-view-of-china-20200131-p53wgp https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/the-think-tank-be... I'm not going to label them as propaganda,they do some good work like collating data on Chinese firms abroad, but their analysis isn't neutral. They're certainly not as lolbad as ChinaTribunal and all the Falungong funded organ harvesting studies that's been spamming the internet since tradewar started.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> I am inclined to believe this is accurate You shouldn't. Almost everything ughyur and xinjiang related has pretty much been shown to be propaganda and from highly questionable sources. You should be inclined towards skepticism. > however I don’t know anything about the organization producing the report. It's literally australian government/defense propaganda. "The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) is a non-partisan defence and strategic policy think tank based in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, founded by the Australian government and partly funded by the Australian Department of Defence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Strategic_Policy_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Strategic_Policy_In... Not saying the treatment of ughyurs are good or bad, but the first casualty in every war is the truth. The more interesting question is how does government propaganda make it to the frontpage without much pushback?

_bxg1 7y ago
> Almost everything ughyur and xinjiang related has pretty much been shown to be propaganda and from highly questionable sources Do you have any evidence for that whatsoever? In contrast, here's a very thorough look from an established news source: https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ