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In college, a professor recommended me for an academic award from industry. It was $1000. So I go to the yearly awards dinner and a month later got a check for

by pkaye 7y ago

In college, a professor recommended me for an academic award from industry. It was $1000. So I go to the yearly awards dinner and a month later got a check for $800. Apparently the university takes a 20% as administrative cost!

thaumasiotes 7y ago
http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1005 http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1005
ganoushoreilly 7y ago
That's actually low! Most of the Universities we've explored research grants with wanted 45-65% overhead for the university, then another 10-15 for Research organization, with the remainder sorted between the researchers / company. We found it was actually just cheaper to pay for the research ourselves and hire the students directly for part time work than go through the grant process. I sat on a couple school boards for a while, all that was ever discussed was fund raising and how we should be contributing more. Very little focus on education. Sadly it's turned me off spending time with Schools and just targeting students / researchers directly.
- gjs278 7y ago
  it’s not actually low. you’re both just being scammed.
- yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
  > and just targeting students / researchers directly. Sounds like a win-win, yeah? So, sorta happy ending...
  - ganoushoreilly 7y ago
    To a large degree yes, but a lot of the work would have fared better with a larger pool of people to work on the problem. We have to be more selective in candidates and in turn, we spend more money out of pocket vs wider spread from the grant pool of cash. The original purpose of grants was to spur technology growth and acceleration, now they're just one more notch on the ole' funding universities piece. We need an overhaul on bloat in state schools at a minimum, then we're good. The other issue is patent / design ownership arguments, but that's for another day.
metaphor 7y ago
Imagine how this team[1] felt when the University of Florida screwed them over not only a $750K preliminary prize (that would have been applied towards funding the next year's research agenda) but a subsequent $2MM prize for taking 1st place in DARPA's Spectrum Collaboration Challenge. [1] https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-engineering-team-wins-million-but-may-not-keep-the/article_e7ec3700-f92d-11e9-b4ec-9754dfa2c602.html https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-engineering-team-wins-mill...
- PeterStuer 7y ago
  Seriously? " 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact webmaster@alligator.org or call 352-376-4458. "

by pkaye 7y ago

thaumasiotes 7y ago

http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1005 http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1005

ganoushoreilly 7y ago

That's actually low! Most of the Universities we've explored research grants with wanted 45-65% overhead for the university, then another 10-15 for Research organization, with the remainder sorted between the researchers / company. We found it was actually just cheaper to pay for the research ourselves and hire the students directly for part time work than go through the grant process. I sat on a couple school boards for a while, all that was ever discussed was fund raising and how we should be contributing more. Very little focus on education. Sadly it's turned me off spending time with Schools and just targeting students / researchers directly.

gjs278 7y ago
it’s not actually low. you’re both just being scammed.
yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
> and just targeting students / researchers directly. Sounds like a win-win, yeah? So, sorta happy ending...
- ganoushoreilly 7y ago
  To a large degree yes, but a lot of the work would have fared better with a larger pool of people to work on the problem. We have to be more selective in candidates and in turn, we spend more money out of pocket vs wider spread from the grant pool of cash. The original purpose of grants was to spur technology growth and acceleration, now they're just one more notch on the ole' funding universities piece. We need an overhaul on bloat in state schools at a minimum, then we're good. The other issue is patent / design ownership arguments, but that's for another day.

metaphor 7y ago

Imagine how this team[1] felt when the University of Florida screwed them over not only a $750K preliminary prize (that would have been applied towards funding the next year's research agenda) but a subsequent $2MM prize for taking 1st place in DARPA's Spectrum Collaboration Challenge. [1] https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-engineering-team-wins-million-but-may-not-keep-the/article_e7ec3700-f92d-11e9-b4ec-9754dfa2c602.html https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-engineering-team-wins-mill...

PeterStuer 7y ago
Seriously? " 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact webmaster@alligator.org or call 352-376-4458. "