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Actually I am not, I talking specifically about the 3800 and 3900 verses the 9900KS. Intel is still on average faster but whether that is worth the loss in othe

Actually I am not, I talking specifically about the 3800 and 3900 verses the 9900KS. Intel is still on average faster but whether that is worth the loss in other areas really depends. The area in which Intel is faster is narrowing (high refresh rate, certain games that are lowly threaded) and the advantage is smaller. When we were talking the Zen1 CPUs things were worse than this, more like 15% average behind and up to 35%. As its narrowed AMD has also made plenty of wins too, it is now highly dependent on games played and if something you always play favours one over another. Whether you then choose Intel depends on the circumstances, but the facts are the facts.

LeoNatan25 7y ago
But you are. Facts are facts. Here are some facts: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html AMD CPUs are leading the chart with lower clock rates than Intel's 9900KS (4.0 GHz base, 5.0 GHz boost). Overclock those AMD CPUs and Intel has no advantage.
- PaulKeeble 7y ago
  That isn't games, passmark is a wide splattering of applications, some of which clearly benefit from threading. I have talked about a particular set of circumstances in which Intel wins (and looses) and your source is garbage for that circumstance. https://youtu.be/CGQY9yJqfMs?t=449 https://youtu.be/CGQY9yJqfMs?t=449 <- this is a 36 game roundup from a place that does decent game testing. Here is another from GamersNexus probably one of the best places for gaming reviews out there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQ2X1y0jvw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQ2X1y0jvw Here is Anandtech on the 9900KS that includes a 3900X, their methods and range of tests is pretty outdated nowadays but still the same picture emerges https://www.anandtech.com/show/14979/the-intel-core-i9-9900ks-review/8 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14979/the-intel-core-i9-9900k... The majority of the big outlets say the same thing about gaming and low threaded workloads on these CPUs. Intel wins that still, not by as much as it did but it still wins most of the time and on average about 7%, at worst more like 20-25%. Intel also looses sometimes, it really depends.
  - jjeaff 7y ago
    The posted benchmark is single thread performance. So AMD is getting no multi-thread boost.

LeoNatan25 7y ago

But you are. Facts are facts. Here are some facts: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html AMD CPUs are leading the chart with lower clock rates than Intel's 9900KS (4.0 GHz base, 5.0 GHz boost). Overclock those AMD CPUs and Intel has no advantage.

PaulKeeble 7y ago
That isn't games, passmark is a wide splattering of applications, some of which clearly benefit from threading. I have talked about a particular set of circumstances in which Intel wins (and looses) and your source is garbage for that circumstance. https://youtu.be/CGQY9yJqfMs?t=449 https://youtu.be/CGQY9yJqfMs?t=449 <- this is a 36 game roundup from a place that does decent game testing. Here is another from GamersNexus probably one of the best places for gaming reviews out there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQ2X1y0jvw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQ2X1y0jvw Here is Anandtech on the 9900KS that includes a 3900X, their methods and range of tests is pretty outdated nowadays but still the same picture emerges https://www.anandtech.com/show/14979/the-intel-core-i9-9900ks-review/8 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14979/the-intel-core-i9-9900k... The majority of the big outlets say the same thing about gaming and low threaded workloads on these CPUs. Intel wins that still, not by as much as it did but it still wins most of the time and on average about 7%, at worst more like 20-25%. Intel also looses sometimes, it really depends.
- jjeaff 7y ago
  The posted benchmark is single thread performance. So AMD is getting no multi-thread boost.