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>Way more people die from car crashes than most ways to die; there's a moral imperative to take away control from humans in that regard. How many self driving

>Way more people die from car crashes than most ways to die; there's a moral imperative to take away control from humans in that regard. How many self driving cars are on the road vs. non autonomous cars on the road? As a software developer, we are taught to look at the root cause. In your case you are saying the human is the root cause but that is too shallow. The root cause, is why a human was in that situation in the first place - stress, crazy work hours, car maintenance etc.

kick 7y ago
The root cause, is why a human was in that situation in the first place - stress, crazy work hours, car maintenance etc. All three of these are solved with self-driving cars. The human is the least-manageable part of the equation. Take out the human, stress doesn't matter. Them drinking doesn't matter. Them having crazy work hours or whatever excuse they'll use doesn't matter. With proper self-driving cars, them being conscious eventually doesn't matter. This is one of the few problems that can actually be solved with a mostly-technical (including law as tech, because law is programming) solution: take away control of vehicles from humans. The root cause is that humans are not good at handling motor vehicles going at high speeds repetitively on average. There are too many factors to cover. It's 40,000 people dead and millions injured in the United States every year over something that can be mitigated.
- mothsonasloth 7y ago
  Ok my guy, lets see how this rolls (excuse the pun) in 20 years from now when my Bezos Mk2 hydrocell vehicle running Microsoft Car SP3 has a glitch in its LIDAR driver...
  - kick 7y ago
    Congratulations, you picked proprietary software and bet on LIDAR, then died because of those choices. The death count is still significantly lower than it was in 2020, and life is considered better for most. For a serious answer: even if the life-threatening crash-caused-by-glitch rate is 1/10,000, which is unlikely on its own, that's still giving you better results than human drivers, where the rate of death (keep in mind, deaths, not injuries) is around 12/100,000 drivers.
ribs 7y ago
So, just solve stress and crazy working hours. Ha

kick 7y ago

The root cause, is why a human was in that situation in the first place - stress, crazy work hours, car maintenance etc. All three of these are solved with self-driving cars. The human is the least-manageable part of the equation. Take out the human, stress doesn't matter. Them drinking doesn't matter. Them having crazy work hours or whatever excuse they'll use doesn't matter. With proper self-driving cars, them being conscious eventually doesn't matter. This is one of the few problems that can actually be solved with a mostly-technical (including law as tech, because law is programming) solution: take away control of vehicles from humans. The root cause is that humans are not good at handling motor vehicles going at high speeds repetitively on average. There are too many factors to cover. It's 40,000 people dead and millions injured in the United States every year over something that can be mitigated.

mothsonasloth 7y ago
Ok my guy, lets see how this rolls (excuse the pun) in 20 years from now when my Bezos Mk2 hydrocell vehicle running Microsoft Car SP3 has a glitch in its LIDAR driver...
- kick 7y ago
  Congratulations, you picked proprietary software and bet on LIDAR, then died because of those choices. The death count is still significantly lower than it was in 2020, and life is considered better for most. For a serious answer: even if the life-threatening crash-caused-by-glitch rate is 1/10,000, which is unlikely on its own, that's still giving you better results than human drivers, where the rate of death (keep in mind, deaths, not injuries) is around 12/100,000 drivers.

ribs 7y ago

So, just solve stress and crazy working hours. Ha