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At G you can regularly fly business. If you save the company money you can use the credits for upgrades in your next business related trip. I found that I am wa

At G you can regularly fly business. If you save the company money you can use the credits for upgrades in your next business related trip. I found that I am way more productive when I am flying half way across the world and am well rested in the flight.

akhilcacharya 7y ago
Nice, I guess? In the era of gigabit broadband and zoom/chime/hangouts/etc i'm not sure why an engineer would even need to travel half way across the world to even need to be "well rested". Is there something more you're trying to say here? That we are less valuable or something?
- mav3rick 7y ago
  Aah, have you ever tried working on a project with a team from a different time zone. It can get slow when time zones don't sync. We travel to get face time and really prototype some difficult stuff. You're trying to defend Amazon's behavior by undermining face to face interaction. I am trying to reinforce the parent point in this thread. That Amazon is cheap even more so when it comes to travel.
  - otterley 7y ago
    Frugality is one of Amazon’s leadership principles. The flight class restriction is consistent with that. It helps them keep doing things like building new things and lowering prices for customers. There are other ways Amazonians get rest, like flying the day before a meeting and staying in a hotel the night before. And even with the added hotel and meals expenses, the total cost is often cheaper than flying business class. Again, just my opinion, not speaking for Amazon.
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      At G you still get to fly in before. Amazon has enough money. They just don't want to spend it on employees. There's a reason churn is so bad there.
  - akhilcacharya 7y ago
    Yes, I have. Face time is possible over video chat. Code collaboration is possible through pull requests / change lists / whatever. Again, not sure what you're saying here.
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      Enjoy the sub par "perks". As Amazon tells you that spending less on employees is the way to go.
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      It's higher bandwidth to work face to face. There are many studies citing the same.

akhilcacharya 7y ago

Nice, I guess? In the era of gigabit broadband and zoom/chime/hangouts/etc i'm not sure why an engineer would even need to travel half way across the world to even need to be "well rested". Is there something more you're trying to say here? That we are less valuable or something?

mav3rick 7y ago
Aah, have you ever tried working on a project with a team from a different time zone. It can get slow when time zones don't sync. We travel to get face time and really prototype some difficult stuff. You're trying to defend Amazon's behavior by undermining face to face interaction. I am trying to reinforce the parent point in this thread. That Amazon is cheap even more so when it comes to travel.
- otterley 7y ago
  Frugality is one of Amazon’s leadership principles. The flight class restriction is consistent with that. It helps them keep doing things like building new things and lowering prices for customers. There are other ways Amazonians get rest, like flying the day before a meeting and staying in a hotel the night before. And even with the added hotel and meals expenses, the total cost is often cheaper than flying business class. Again, just my opinion, not speaking for Amazon.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    At G you still get to fly in before. Amazon has enough money. They just don't want to spend it on employees. There's a reason churn is so bad there.
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  Yes, I have. Face time is possible over video chat. Code collaboration is possible through pull requests / change lists / whatever. Again, not sure what you're saying here.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    Enjoy the sub par "perks". As Amazon tells you that spending less on employees is the way to go.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    It's higher bandwidth to work face to face. There are many studies citing the same.