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> So the quarantine in the US has failed, and we have no idea how badly. No one ever suggested it was never going to spread in America. The quarantine was to T

> So the quarantine in the US has failed, and we have no idea how badly. No one ever suggested it was never going to spread in America. The quarantine was to TRY to prevent it from getting here, but you can only do so much. Once it is here we will treat it. There are plenty procedures in place since 9/11 to handle these things properly. The longer we held the quarantine the more time we had to prepare. We've done really well thanks to the early travel bans that the media was against. > Paranoia is warranted at this point. Stop fear mongering.

drozak 7y ago
>> Stop fear mongering. You might have the best of intentions, but you're not really helping anyone. The US appears to be mirroring China's missteps quite well, and we all know how things turned out there. Unfounded optimism is as dangerous as fearmongering.
craftinator 7y ago
> No one ever suggested it was never going to spread in America. The quarantine was to TRY to prevent it from getting here, but you can only do so much. In an earlier post you wrote, "There's less testing overall because there's less risk because the US government quarantined it so well." If the US government did so well at quarantine that they didn't need to do any surveillance testing, how is it now spreading outside of quarantine? Your statement is an assertion that the government has stopped it from spreading, by the logic that they wouldn't need to test outside of quarantine. So yeah, you did suggest it. > Once it is here we will treat it. There are plenty procedures in place since 9/11 to handle these things properly. There is no treatment that is known to work. There are four or five that are, or are approaching, clinical trials. The one that looks most promising to me is being used in a trial in Wuhan. > The longer we held the quarantine the more time we had to prepare. We've done really well thanks to the early travel bans that the media was against. We have no idea when the quarantine broke. We just know we've had several cases of people in hospitals who were sick and had no clue who they got it from. It could have been a single carrier, or they could be representing a thousand people who are just beginning to develop flu-like symptoms... We just don't know. Not enough data. > > Paranoia is warranted at this point. > Stop fear mongering. I will monger fear when I think it's necessary; an illness that doubles the number of infected every 6 days, has no cure or treatment, has a death rate higher than swine flu, and takes a median of 4.5 days to even show symptoms scares the hell out of me, and it should scare the hell out of you too. And if you think the government "has this under control", you've obviously never worked for them. I did for nearly a decade, and they take months to get their heads out of their asses.

drozak 7y ago

>> Stop fear mongering. You might have the best of intentions, but you're not really helping anyone. The US appears to be mirroring China's missteps quite well, and we all know how things turned out there. Unfounded optimism is as dangerous as fearmongering.

craftinator 7y ago

> No one ever suggested it was never going to spread in America. The quarantine was to TRY to prevent it from getting here, but you can only do so much. In an earlier post you wrote, "There's less testing overall because there's less risk because the US government quarantined it so well." If the US government did so well at quarantine that they didn't need to do any surveillance testing, how is it now spreading outside of quarantine? Your statement is an assertion that the government has stopped it from spreading, by the logic that they wouldn't need to test outside of quarantine. So yeah, you did suggest it. > Once it is here we will treat it. There are plenty procedures in place since 9/11 to handle these things properly. There is no treatment that is known to work. There are four or five that are, or are approaching, clinical trials. The one that looks most promising to me is being used in a trial in Wuhan. > The longer we held the quarantine the more time we had to prepare. We've done really well thanks to the early travel bans that the media was against. We have no idea when the quarantine broke. We just know we've had several cases of people in hospitals who were sick and had no clue who they got it from. It could have been a single carrier, or they could be representing a thousand people who are just beginning to develop flu-like symptoms... We just don't know. Not enough data. > > Paranoia is warranted at this point. > Stop fear mongering. I will monger fear when I think it's necessary; an illness that doubles the number of infected every 6 days, has no cure or treatment, has a death rate higher than swine flu, and takes a median of 4.5 days to even show symptoms scares the hell out of me, and it should scare the hell out of you too. And if you think the government "has this under control", you've obviously never worked for them. I did for nearly a decade, and they take months to get their heads out of their asses.