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Are there "even" any examples of Android phones with user replaceable batteries that are comparable to current iPhones. I.e, with same/similar IP-ratings, simil

Are there "even" any examples of Android phones with user replaceable batteries that are comparable to current iPhones. I.e, with same/similar IP-ratings, similar battery capacity, similar ish power consumption, similar weight/thickness, similar screen size etc. I think a smarter legislative move would be to enforce cost and accessibility measures for replacements, then manufactures could decide on the trade-off between design and cost. E.g if EU said that all (new) phones could have their battery replaced for 30€/3% of purchase price/something else, within $arbitrary days, Apple could do that instead of making their phones (in my view) worse, while lower-end Android vendors without service infrastructure could make their phones thicker or less waterproof with an old school battery.

GuB-42 7y ago
There are no high end phones with removable batteries. Today, the closest would the new Samsung Galaxy XCover Pro, but they it is in a completely different market. The iPhone is a high end consumer product while the XCover Pro is a mid range rugged smartphone. For a more relevant comparison, we have to go back to the Galaxy S5 (2014). It was a flagship and IMHO, a very good one. It had a removable battery, IP67 rating, and was on par with iPhones specs-wise. The main downside was its look, and it is probably the reason why Samsung switched to an all glass design.
adrianmonk 7y ago
I agree. Legislate the requirements, not the implementation choice. Otherwise, you unnecessarily constrain people from coming up with the best solution. Product engineers then basically have to follow a design concept created by people who aren't trained in that. Though I do understand how legislators might fear that if they only specify requirements, industry might act like the proverbial genie who grants wishes exactly as asked or even intentionally in the worst possible way.

GuB-42 7y ago

There are no high end phones with removable batteries. Today, the closest would the new Samsung Galaxy XCover Pro, but they it is in a completely different market. The iPhone is a high end consumer product while the XCover Pro is a mid range rugged smartphone. For a more relevant comparison, we have to go back to the Galaxy S5 (2014). It was a flagship and IMHO, a very good one. It had a removable battery, IP67 rating, and was on par with iPhones specs-wise. The main downside was its look, and it is probably the reason why Samsung switched to an all glass design.

adrianmonk 7y ago

I agree. Legislate the requirements, not the implementation choice. Otherwise, you unnecessarily constrain people from coming up with the best solution. Product engineers then basically have to follow a design concept created by people who aren't trained in that. Though I do understand how legislators might fear that if they only specify requirements, industry might act like the proverbial genie who grants wishes exactly as asked or even intentionally in the worst possible way.