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> I see folks who couldn't define PCR tossing around R0 with the confidence of someone who's been working in wet labs their entire career. What does working in
by jnbiche 7y ago
> I see folks who couldn't define PCR tossing around R0 with the confidence of someone who's been working in wet labs their entire career.
What does working in a wet lab, or PCR, have to do with having knowledge of an epidemiological concept, or being an epidemiologist? Basically, epidemiologists collect and analyze data on disease determinants and some perform or recommend interventions based on that analysis. Those diseases can be chronic or acute, infectious or environmental.
Most professional epidemiologists have never worked in a wet lab, nor do they have medical degree (some epidemiologists do, but it's less common). Likewise, most doctors have zero formal training in epidemiology. A few medical schools have integrated a module on biostatistics and epidemiology into their curriculum, but it's not common (or at least it wasn't ~20 years ago, if that's changing I'm happy). I'm always amazed at how many doctors fail to understand basic biostatistical measures used in epidemiology and biostatistics, such as specificity and sensitivity, much less positive predictive value (also very important to know when interpreting test results like doctors do every day).
As we know on HN, people tend to misunderstand what computer scientists do. They assume they're more or less programmers, when in fact, they're doing a kind of applied math in a specific domain. In the same way, people misunderstand what epidemiologists do. They assume they're all doctors working on infectious diseases. In fact, you could look at epidemiology as also being a kind of applied math in a specific domain (population health).
(if it matters, I did a master's degree in epidemiology many years ago, and worked briefly on epidemiological grant research for a university. I changed professions soon afterwards, and have forgotten most of what I learned. But I do have a good idea of how epidemiologists are trained, and what they do on a daily basis.)
- Munky-Necan 7y ago>A few medical schools have integrated a module on biostatistics and epidemiology into their curriculum, but it's not common (or at least it wasn't ~20 years ago, if that's changing I'm happy) It is changing, I had bio stats and epidemiology. How much I paid attention to it is up for debate. I can say that epidemiology from my experience is easy to have a grasp on what's going on, but to understand the nuances of data you have to go through rigorous training. >such as specificity and sensitivity, much less positive predictive value (also very important to know when interpreting test results like doctors do every day) This is the only thing I think physicians are getting good at. although the older ones may not have the palate that younger physicians have for this kind of thing. Compared to epidemiology sensitivity and specificity have daily implications on patient outcomes so it becomes imperative whereas epidemiology isn't as important for day to day tasks. I like your part on how lay people, such as myself, have little idea of what a computer scientist does and how that can cause frustration. I'm finding as I get older the less I know about what other people do and the more I should listen instead of speculate.