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I'm starting to think we need a 10%er collition. Our taxes went up under Trump. Healthcare got worse under Obama. The billionaire class uses the 90 percent to

I'm starting to think we need a 10%er collition. Our taxes went up under Trump. Healthcare got worse under Obama. The billionaire class uses the 90 percent to win elections. They have stopped pandering to us.

krapp 7y ago
You're not entirely wrong, but Trump did nothing but pander, and it's arguable that the Democrats biggest problem (apart from the email leaks) was Clinton not pandering enough.
- war1025 7y ago
  Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them.
  - krapp 7y ago
    >Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them. Both candidates felt they deserved votes and deserved to win (Donald Trump no less a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton) and both worked to earn their votes. However, Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on, and Hillary Clinton more or less ignored them in favor of pandering to the upper middle class and the left. Neither candidates' strategy says anything about their relative honesty or integrity, one just happened to work better than the other. In a different universe with slightly different conditions, Clinton might easily have won. Remember, she did literally "earn" more votes than Trump (not that it matters as far as the system is concerned.) But yes, we get it... "Trump good, Clinton bad." Zing.
    - war1025 7y ago
      > if you actually believe Donald Trump is any less of a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton, then you're deluded Agree, but I would have put the names in the opposite spots. > Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on Kind of like Bernie with his plans for healthcare reform with Republicans in control of the Senate. > In a different universe with slightly different conditions, Clinton might easily have won. I voted for Trump and I expected Clinton to win. I suspect most people did. Election night was a welcome surprise. The ensuing three years of "the sky is falling" from the left has been tiring.
      - krapp 7y ago
        Yes, yes. Trump good, Clinton bad, leftists bad, Bernie bad, Democrats bad, pew pew pew. Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable.
        war1025 7y ago
        > Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable. And so is your childish response. Great chat.
        krapp 7y ago
        zingaroo!
lonelappde 7y ago
If you unite with the 90% instead of getting paid by the 0.1% to exploit them, maybe you can claw back some wealth from the 0.1%

krapp 7y ago

You're not entirely wrong, but Trump did nothing but pander, and it's arguable that the Democrats biggest problem (apart from the email leaks) was Clinton not pandering enough.

war1025 7y ago
Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them.
- krapp 7y ago
  >Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them. Both candidates felt they deserved votes and deserved to win (Donald Trump no less a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton) and both worked to earn their votes. However, Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on, and Hillary Clinton more or less ignored them in favor of pandering to the upper middle class and the left. Neither candidates' strategy says anything about their relative honesty or integrity, one just happened to work better than the other. In a different universe with slightly different conditions, Clinton might easily have won. Remember, she did literally "earn" more votes than Trump (not that it matters as far as the system is concerned.) But yes, we get it... "Trump good, Clinton bad." Zing.
  - war1025 7y ago
    > if you actually believe Donald Trump is any less of a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton, then you're deluded Agree, but I would have put the names in the opposite spots. > Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on Kind of like Bernie with his plans for healthcare reform with Republicans in control of the Senate. > In a different universe with slightly different conditions, Clinton might easily have won. I voted for Trump and I expected Clinton to win. I suspect most people did. Election night was a welcome surprise. The ensuing three years of "the sky is falling" from the left has been tiring.
    - krapp 7y ago
      Yes, yes. Trump good, Clinton bad, leftists bad, Bernie bad, Democrats bad, pew pew pew. Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable.
      - war1025 7y ago
        > Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable. And so is your childish response. Great chat.
        krapp 7y ago
        zingaroo!

lonelappde 7y ago

If you unite with the 90% instead of getting paid by the 0.1% to exploit them, maybe you can claw back some wealth from the 0.1%