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> The sign outside says that if you have been to China recently It is no longer only China at this moment, it is literally EVERYWHERE....

avocado4 7y ago
97% of cases have been in China so far.
- tanilama 7y ago
  But US had rejected China travelers' entry and it had been almost 3 weeks now. The chance that people here in get the virus from travelers from Italy/Japan/South Korea/Middle East is MUCH higher than that from China at this very moment.
  - WillPostForFood 7y ago
    US citizens are still allowed to travel to and from China, and there are multiple flights every day.
    - usaar333 7y ago
      Yes, and they are supposed to self-quarantine on return for 14 days. No such rule is present with S. Korea or Italy. A random traveler from S. Korea/Italy is far "riskier" at this point. (Bonus: It's actually really hard to fly directly from China to the US at this point. Your best bets (esp. in the north) are transit through S. Korea or Japan, both infected places)
- ineedasername 7y ago
  New cases outside China now out number new cases in China. So the balance is shifting.
  - taiwanboy 7y ago
    South Korea has tested 66k 2 days ago. China has no such capacity to test even that much, let along 800 million in quanrantine, and people have been welded in their own homes with no escape. The dead bodies have been going straight to the furnace in Wuhan. Which government’s number would you rather trust?
    - tanilama 7y ago
      Their Fire Eye lab claims to process 10k tests per day. Wuhan in total can process 25k per day [1] Plus China recent donated 12,500 test kits to Japan [2] Of course, you seems to dismiss anything from China's official account, then you can choose to believe whatever depends on you political stance. [1] https://m.chinanews.com/wap/detail/zw/kong/2020/02-26/9105637.shtml https://m.chinanews.com/wap/detail/zw/kong/2020/02-26/910563... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18_1mwDTrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18_1mwDTrM
- axus 7y ago
  Of course if you don't test, there's no case. I came back from Japan 3 weeks ago, when I saw the news of the community transmission there (happened 4 weeks ago) I figured I'd get tested because of flu symptoms. The doctor didn't have advice besides to ask the emergency room, who weren't going to send anything in unless I had a high fever and a recent trip to Hubei. I'd hoped 3 more weeks was enough time for the US to get prepared, but it seems not. Am I carrier? Who knows.
taiwanboy 7y ago
Countries that are heavily affected right now primarily have open borders with China (still!!?) - japan, South Korea, Italy, Iran, with tons of Chinese workers going back and forth
- tanilama 7y ago
  US had banned travelers with recent Chinese history from entering the countries effectively from Feb 2nd. I would be much more alert right now as regards to people from Europe/Middle East. Iran is a pretty powerful source of infections to the whole region and so far is just keep escalating. BTW: in Iran's case, they banned entry from China early on, but one of the merchants gets to China via 3rd country and bring the virus back home.
  - blackrock 7y ago
    At this point, I suspect that the East Coast, like New York or Boston, is going to get hit next. And the infected vectors are going to come in from Europe. Once Manhattan reports its first confirmed case, then it’s over. This thing will go full blown.
- Udik 7y ago
  Italy has blocked flights to and from China pretty early. It seems that this prevented tracing and monitoring people coming from China, because they just flew in through a different country.
- bamboozled 7y ago
  What does it matter anymore who can and can't enter really ? It's everywhere, it's spread the globe, it's now in American communities and it's here to stay. It's no longer just a foreign issue now. It's time to assume the brace position, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
  - rfoo 7y ago
    Because GP's username is "taiwan boy" and if you look at his comment history it would be obvious why it matters for him.
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dvduval 7y ago
I'm not going to disagree with you on this point. I was more just reporting what I saw at this dance studio in Chinatown.

avocado4 7y ago

97% of cases have been in China so far.

tanilama 7y ago
But US had rejected China travelers' entry and it had been almost 3 weeks now. The chance that people here in get the virus from travelers from Italy/Japan/South Korea/Middle East is MUCH higher than that from China at this very moment.
- WillPostForFood 7y ago
  US citizens are still allowed to travel to and from China, and there are multiple flights every day.
  - usaar333 7y ago
    Yes, and they are supposed to self-quarantine on return for 14 days. No such rule is present with S. Korea or Italy. A random traveler from S. Korea/Italy is far "riskier" at this point. (Bonus: It's actually really hard to fly directly from China to the US at this point. Your best bets (esp. in the north) are transit through S. Korea or Japan, both infected places)
ineedasername 7y ago
New cases outside China now out number new cases in China. So the balance is shifting.
- taiwanboy 7y ago
  South Korea has tested 66k 2 days ago. China has no such capacity to test even that much, let along 800 million in quanrantine, and people have been welded in their own homes with no escape. The dead bodies have been going straight to the furnace in Wuhan. Which government’s number would you rather trust?
  - tanilama 7y ago
    Their Fire Eye lab claims to process 10k tests per day. Wuhan in total can process 25k per day [1] Plus China recent donated 12,500 test kits to Japan [2] Of course, you seems to dismiss anything from China's official account, then you can choose to believe whatever depends on you political stance. [1] https://m.chinanews.com/wap/detail/zw/kong/2020/02-26/9105637.shtml https://m.chinanews.com/wap/detail/zw/kong/2020/02-26/910563... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18_1mwDTrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18_1mwDTrM
axus 7y ago
Of course if you don't test, there's no case. I came back from Japan 3 weeks ago, when I saw the news of the community transmission there (happened 4 weeks ago) I figured I'd get tested because of flu symptoms. The doctor didn't have advice besides to ask the emergency room, who weren't going to send anything in unless I had a high fever and a recent trip to Hubei. I'd hoped 3 more weeks was enough time for the US to get prepared, but it seems not. Am I carrier? Who knows.

taiwanboy 7y ago

Countries that are heavily affected right now primarily have open borders with China (still!!?) - japan, South Korea, Italy, Iran, with tons of Chinese workers going back and forth

tanilama 7y ago
US had banned travelers with recent Chinese history from entering the countries effectively from Feb 2nd. I would be much more alert right now as regards to people from Europe/Middle East. Iran is a pretty powerful source of infections to the whole region and so far is just keep escalating. BTW: in Iran's case, they banned entry from China early on, but one of the merchants gets to China via 3rd country and bring the virus back home.
- blackrock 7y ago
  At this point, I suspect that the East Coast, like New York or Boston, is going to get hit next. And the infected vectors are going to come in from Europe. Once Manhattan reports its first confirmed case, then it’s over. This thing will go full blown.
Udik 7y ago
Italy has blocked flights to and from China pretty early. It seems that this prevented tracing and monitoring people coming from China, because they just flew in through a different country.
bamboozled 7y ago
What does it matter anymore who can and can't enter really ? It's everywhere, it's spread the globe, it's now in American communities and it's here to stay. It's no longer just a foreign issue now. It's time to assume the brace position, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
- rfoo 7y ago
  Because GP's username is "taiwan boy" and if you look at his comment history it would be obvious why it matters for him.

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dvduval 7y ago

I'm not going to disagree with you on this point. I was more just reporting what I saw at this dance studio in Chinatown.