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Isn't anyone who opposes secret surveillance with minimal oversight "helping themselves"?
by tic_tac 7y ago
Isn't anyone who opposes secret surveillance with minimal oversight "helping themselves"?
- new_realist 7y agoWarrants are required for FISA activities, and the surveillance is limited to non-citizens.
- staticautomatic 7y ago> the surveillance is limited to non-citizens How many times have we heard that one before?
- new_realist 7y agoThe FBI and local law enforcement can already investigate citizens in accordance with due process. Are you saying the FBI shouldn’t also have the power to investigate foreign governments or agents?
- 8note 7y agoisn't it communications with non-citizens? I imagine the government can twist that to mean that if a non-citizens could see it, then the government can access it legally.
- derision 7y agoSo Carter Page is a non-citizen? Because the FBI was granted a FISA warrant to surveil him, and the Trump though the two hop rule? Not to mention it's been stated publicly by the OIG that the FBI used falsified evidence to receive those warrants
- tic_tac 7y agoThe Leftist aligned media that many (most?) on HN follow, like MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc do not report on these things, so what you're describing will either be ignored completely or derided as a "conspiracy theory".
- soraminazuki 7y ago> Warrants are required for FISA activities A general warrant is not what most people would consider a valid warrant. It’s more like a rubber stamp. > surveillance is limited to non-citizens Being a non-citizen doesn’t somehow make you a lesser being unworthy of basic human rights.