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A friend of mine flew back from Japan yesterday. They were involved with providing food to the passengers quarantined on the Diamond Princess. He worked about a

A friend of mine flew back from Japan yesterday. They were involved with providing food to the passengers quarantined on the Diamond Princess. He worked about an hour away from the cruise ship. This friend called the Center for Disease Control before flying back and asked them if he should do anything, like maybe quarantine himself in his home; they said no. No one questioned him when be boarded the plane to the states. When he left the plane he was asked if he had traveled to China and he said no; they waved him through. My friend feels reasonable safe, their thinking was is that since they worked a good distance from the cruise ship, they should be fine. They are quarantining themselves for the two weeks, on their own, out of their own personal sense of caution. IMHO, the CDC should be more careful. Japan continues to see more cases show up.[1] It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that the CDC should quarantine everyone coming from Yokohoma, Japan. Especially if their work was somehow related to the quarantined cruise ship. Science reported three days ago[0] that maybe people who directly interacted with the cruise ship maybe weren't careful enough... "Normally, those supporting a quarantine don’t have to be quarantined themselves, presuming they use personal protection equipment (PPE)—masks, gloves, goggles, and gowns. 'But the available evidence suggests that PPE was not appropriately used on board,' Hunter says. He believes the officers who worked onboard the Diamond Princess should have been quarantined once the problems with infection control came to light. If such lax management had resulted in the infection of government officials in the United Kingdom, 'I suspect criminal proceedings would follow,' Hunter says." [0]: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/coronavirus-infections-keep-mounting-after-cruise-ship-fiasco-japan https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/coronavirus-infectio... [1]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

dmix 7y ago
The CDC is (allegedly) already working on expanding the criteria for who gets tested and who doesn't. Making the conditions less strict. They are also working hard on getting the testing kits available broadly in every region of the country which is no easy task (apparently a bit part of the supply chain for the actual testing kits is coming from China, which is ironic in a way). Previously only people who were in contact with infected people showing symptoms or were in China (previously Wuhan) would be allowed to get tested. This may be missing a ton of aystompatic people walking around who don't know they have it, and may be spreading it to other people [1]. Your friend most certainly should have been tested and possibly self-quarinited. Fun story, an area in northern Italy, Lombary decided to test more broad, not just the people showing symptoms and they found 600 people (only roughly 200 showing symptoms). It seems that no one really cares about the other 400 infected people walking around because "they aren't coughing and spreading it like a symptomatic person". The funny part is a bunch of other Italian areas got mad at Lombardy for testing broadly and spiking the total number of infected in Italy. It's like shooting the messenger. The Lomary official had a great quote (this comes from [2]): > Lombardy officials said they preferred to know who had the virus. > “Either you hide problems under a carpet, or you lift the carpet and you clean the floor,” Attilio Fontana, the region’s president, said in an interview in his office, with views over a foggy and eerily quiet Milan, 29 floors above the virus hunters. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asympt... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/europe/italy-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/europe/italy-corona...
gshdg 7y ago
They've already been on a plane with hundreds of other people flying to the US. If they're contagious, it's way too late to avoid spreading the disease. (Which is not to say they shouldn't continue to quarantine themselves -- just that flying was foolish if they were concerned about being a vector for introducing the disease to the US.)

dmix 7y ago

The CDC is (allegedly) already working on expanding the criteria for who gets tested and who doesn't. Making the conditions less strict. They are also working hard on getting the testing kits available broadly in every region of the country which is no easy task (apparently a bit part of the supply chain for the actual testing kits is coming from China, which is ironic in a way). Previously only people who were in contact with infected people showing symptoms or were in China (previously Wuhan) would be allowed to get tested. This may be missing a ton of aystompatic people walking around who don't know they have it, and may be spreading it to other people [1]. Your friend most certainly should have been tested and possibly self-quarinited. Fun story, an area in northern Italy, Lombary decided to test more broad, not just the people showing symptoms and they found 600 people (only roughly 200 showing symptoms). It seems that no one really cares about the other 400 infected people walking around because "they aren't coughing and spreading it like a symptomatic person". The funny part is a bunch of other Italian areas got mad at Lombardy for testing broadly and spiking the total number of infected in Italy. It's like shooting the messenger. The Lomary official had a great quote (this comes from [2]): > Lombardy officials said they preferred to know who had the virus. > “Either you hide problems under a carpet, or you lift the carpet and you clean the floor,” Attilio Fontana, the region’s president, said in an interview in his office, with views over a foggy and eerily quiet Milan, 29 floors above the virus hunters. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asympt... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/europe/italy-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/europe/italy-corona...

gshdg 7y ago

They've already been on a plane with hundreds of other people flying to the US. If they're contagious, it's way too late to avoid spreading the disease. (Which is not to say they shouldn't continue to quarantine themselves -- just that flying was foolish if they were concerned about being a vector for introducing the disease to the US.)