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Wait, so SeaMonkey has a mail client that's based on Thunderbird but not Thunderbird?

by themodelplumber 7y ago

mugwort13 7y ago
Thunderbird was based on SeaMonkey
mixmastamyk 7y ago
Seamonkey Netscape Mail -< Thunderbird
palant 7y ago
It's complicated. Initially there was Mozilla Suite. Mozilla Suite consisted of a browser, a mail and an IRC client. Then Firefox came out as a simpler browser, without all that unnecessary stuff. And the mail component from Mozilla Suite became Thunderbird. But the Mozilla community liked the old Mozilla Suite, so they kept developing it after Mozilla gave up on it, under the name SeaMonkey. So today SeaMonkey Mail and Thunderbird still share lots of code, but technically speaking they aren't the same thing.
- smacktoward 7y ago
  Nitpick: initially there was Netscape Communicator/Netscape 4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Communicator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Communicator), which got open-sourced as Mozilla Suite when Netscape went out of business. (Confusingly, there were many more versions of Netscape after 4, but Mozilla Suite didn't really derive from them. Netscape 6 and 7 were just contemporary versions of Mozilla Suite with some Netscape badging slapped on. Netscape 8 was based on early versions of Firefox, dropped the other non-browser "suite" components, and was only released for Windows. Netscape 9 was also a browser-only thing, but went back to being cross-platform.)
  - nineteen999 7y ago
    > but Mozilla Suite didn't really derive from them I think it would be just slightly more accurate to say, that it didn't derive from them at all, as the original Netscape codebase was scrapped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite#Rewriting_from_scratch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application...
jcranmer 7y ago
In comm-central, there are three overarching directories [1]: mailnews, mail, and suite. The first directory is essentially all of the backend logic corresponding to the implementation of mail protocols, database logic, etc. The latter two directories are Thunderbird- and SeaMonkey-specific code, and almost entirely consist of the GUI display and GUI driver code, although there are some product-only components. [1] There's a few more directories that are split out of mailnews, due more to historical reasons than any sane code split.

Wait, so SeaMonkey has a mail client that's based on Thunderbird but not Thunderbird?

mugwort13 7y ago

Thunderbird was based on SeaMonkey

mixmastamyk 7y ago

Seamonkey Netscape Mail -< Thunderbird

palant 7y ago

It's complicated. Initially there was Mozilla Suite. Mozilla Suite consisted of a browser, a mail and an IRC client. Then Firefox came out as a simpler browser, without all that unnecessary stuff. And the mail component from Mozilla Suite became Thunderbird. But the Mozilla community liked the old Mozilla Suite, so they kept developing it after Mozilla gave up on it, under the name SeaMonkey. So today SeaMonkey Mail and Thunderbird still share lots of code, but technically speaking they aren't the same thing.

smacktoward 7y ago
Nitpick: initially there was Netscape Communicator/Netscape 4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Communicator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Communicator), which got open-sourced as Mozilla Suite when Netscape went out of business. (Confusingly, there were many more versions of Netscape after 4, but Mozilla Suite didn't really derive from them. Netscape 6 and 7 were just contemporary versions of Mozilla Suite with some Netscape badging slapped on. Netscape 8 was based on early versions of Firefox, dropped the other non-browser "suite" components, and was only released for Windows. Netscape 9 was also a browser-only thing, but went back to being cross-platform.)
- nineteen999 7y ago
  > but Mozilla Suite didn't really derive from them I think it would be just slightly more accurate to say, that it didn't derive from them at all, as the original Netscape codebase was scrapped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite#Rewriting_from_scratch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application...

jcranmer 7y ago

In comm-central, there are three overarching directories [1]: mailnews, mail, and suite. The first directory is essentially all of the backend logic corresponding to the implementation of mail protocols, database logic, etc. The latter two directories are Thunderbird- and SeaMonkey-specific code, and almost entirely consist of the GUI display and GUI driver code, although there are some product-only components. [1] There's a few more directories that are split out of mailnews, due more to historical reasons than any sane code split.