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In that price range, I'd far rather get an Udoo bolt V3 for $330. Dual Ryzen cores (4 threads, 3.2GHz) and way better IO along with the option for way more RAM.
by hajile 7y ago
In that price range, I'd far rather get an Udoo bolt V3 for $330. Dual Ryzen cores (4 threads, 3.2GHz) and way better IO along with the option for way more RAM. Case and charger add another $45, but total performance is way higher. The quad core (8 thread, 3.6GHz) version with an 8CU GPU runs about $420.
Going from $300 to $380 or $500 with a similar form factor and many times more performance seems like a good deal for a lot of tasks.
- 1996 7y agoVery nice find, thanks, I checked it can do 32GB ECC - however, for mass storage it only seems to have 1x NVME, while some quick mental math tells me there should be enough lanes for 2x NVME or Pci-e X4 Gen 3 Do you know something similar to the Udoo that would have at least 2x NVME + 1x SATA 2.5? From the Udoo specs: > 32gb Emmc 5.0 High Speed Drive > Ssd Sata Module Slot M.2 Socket Key B 2260 (Featured Also Pci-e X2) > Nvme Module Slot M.2 Socket Key M 2280 (Pci-e X4 Gen 3 Interface) > Sata 3.0 6 Gbit/s Standard Connector
- hajile 7y agoThere are "commercial" boards, but they price by appointment only and probably cost 3-10x as much. Here's an IO comparison Udoo Bolt * 1 sata 3 port * 1 m.2 type B (2x PCIe 2 lanes) * 1 NVME drive (over 4x PCIe 3 lanes) * 1 eMMC 5 (32gb soldered -- a mistake IMO, but one could potentially solder on a different chip) Rockchip rk3399 (raw specs) * 1 eMMC 5.1 * 2 SD/MMC 4.5 * 4x PCIe 2.1 lanes The Helios64 is stretching all their SATA across those 4x PCIe 2.1 lanes. The single m.2 type B on the udoo has that much bandwidth by itself (and the NVME has the equivalent of 8x additional PCIe 2 lanes). If you really wanted, you could probably find an adapter that could turn the NVME into PCIe and then into quite a few SATA lanes as that's basically all they're doing anyway with the helios.
- 1996 7y agoThanks a lot! For what I do, I'd need to add a key-B NVME drive (not SATA, because of the IOPS) to the "normal" NVME if I understand correctly. Do you know any such drive having at least 512G and working in NVME (not SATA)? Or can I just plug a 2260 B+M keyed drive and hope it doesn't default to SATA?
- hajile 7y agoTheir docs claim either NVME or SATA work. https://www.udoo.org/docs-bolt/Hardware_References/M.2_Connectors.html https://www.udoo.org/docs-bolt/Hardware_References/M.2_Conne...
- scottlamb 7y agoink_13 was talking about NASs, so I recommended a machine for that use case. Are you talking about a NAS as well? If so, what comparable enclosure can you find for $45? You need more SATA ports also—an expansion card or port multiplier or some such. The Udoo is a much more powerful little machine, but the Helios64 seems more practical as a low-budget NAS.