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You can have a quad-core AMD board with dual (or triple) gigabit for a hundred euro https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm

Jonnax 7y ago
These are GX-412TC Jaguar CPUs, they are very old. Introduction date: June 6, 2014 http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.html http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.h...
- puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
  They are still dual-issue out-of-order x86-64 cores. Same architecture as in Xbox One. Plenty of power for the TDP.
hedora 7y ago
I use one of these (running OpenBSD) as a router. 100% uptime, excluding OS upgrades and power failures. It’s fast enough to run small VMs, and is passively cooled. PC Engines has a nice business model. They put out board revisions infrequently, but then sell them unchanged (other than errata) for decades. This lets OS vendors provide rock solid support over time, and also makes them appropriate for use cases where you want to be able to buy an identical replacement years from now. As Moore’s Law ends, I hope more hardware vendors go this way. Hopefully PC Engines will issue a new Ryzen based APU line sometime soon (since the article says these will be produced by AMD for 10 years). (Edit: they support boards for about one decade. Not multiple decades)
- puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
  I've been actually wondering what they might use if they want to keep 4 cores. V1500B looks nice but it is rated 12-25W. https://www.amd.com/en/product/8496 https://www.amd.com/en/product/8496
Legogris 7y ago
I have one as my home router and got an additional two to run as GlusterFS nodes and couldn't be happier (well, Gluster performance is really unsatisfactory with ~50MB/s from these two running in replicated on 1 LUKS-encrypted SSD each, but I've realized now that probably I shouldn't expect much more with this kind of setup and you really need to run distributed on larger number of smaller nodes to make Gluster performant, so can't blame the APUs). Now I'm having a hard time to decide what I should go for for additional worker nodes in my cluster - go all-in on PCEngines APUs, Odroid H2, Udoo Bolt or a larger number of some incarnation of RK3399 SBC (Khadas VIM3/NanoPi M4/Rock Pi) or even Raspberry Pi4s - or if it's better to wait a bit for some of these new AMD SFFs. If power-consumption, space and noise wouldn't be a factor it'd be a no-brainer to get two or more 19" rack servers, but that's a no-go. I have a feeling that the playing field for small-form-factor, power-efficient and quiet compute clusters is going to change dramatically soon with new products based on AMD and ARM, but also not sure if it's worth waiting if I want things up and running by this summer.
- puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
  What sort of requirements do you have? Maybe something like a HP Microserver would work for you? https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-plus-is-worth-getting-excited-about/ https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-...
  - Legogris 7y ago
    Yes, even if they're a tad bit on the large side of what I'm looking for they're still looking quite compelling - unfortunately relevant models are not on sale in my region and the pricing becomes less attractive after shipping and import duties.

Jonnax 7y ago

These are GX-412TC Jaguar CPUs, they are very old. Introduction date: June 6, 2014 http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.html http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.h...

puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
They are still dual-issue out-of-order x86-64 cores. Same architecture as in Xbox One. Plenty of power for the TDP.

hedora 7y ago

I use one of these (running OpenBSD) as a router. 100% uptime, excluding OS upgrades and power failures. It’s fast enough to run small VMs, and is passively cooled. PC Engines has a nice business model. They put out board revisions infrequently, but then sell them unchanged (other than errata) for decades. This lets OS vendors provide rock solid support over time, and also makes them appropriate for use cases where you want to be able to buy an identical replacement years from now. As Moore’s Law ends, I hope more hardware vendors go this way. Hopefully PC Engines will issue a new Ryzen based APU line sometime soon (since the article says these will be produced by AMD for 10 years). (Edit: they support boards for about one decade. Not multiple decades)

puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
I've been actually wondering what they might use if they want to keep 4 cores. V1500B looks nice but it is rated 12-25W. https://www.amd.com/en/product/8496 https://www.amd.com/en/product/8496

Legogris 7y ago

I have one as my home router and got an additional two to run as GlusterFS nodes and couldn't be happier (well, Gluster performance is really unsatisfactory with ~50MB/s from these two running in replicated on 1 LUKS-encrypted SSD each, but I've realized now that probably I shouldn't expect much more with this kind of setup and you really need to run distributed on larger number of smaller nodes to make Gluster performant, so can't blame the APUs). Now I'm having a hard time to decide what I should go for for additional worker nodes in my cluster - go all-in on PCEngines APUs, Odroid H2, Udoo Bolt or a larger number of some incarnation of RK3399 SBC (Khadas VIM3/NanoPi M4/Rock Pi) or even Raspberry Pi4s - or if it's better to wait a bit for some of these new AMD SFFs. If power-consumption, space and noise wouldn't be a factor it'd be a no-brainer to get two or more 19" rack servers, but that's a no-go. I have a feeling that the playing field for small-form-factor, power-efficient and quiet compute clusters is going to change dramatically soon with new products based on AMD and ARM, but also not sure if it's worth waiting if I want things up and running by this summer.

puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
What sort of requirements do you have? Maybe something like a HP Microserver would work for you? https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-plus-is-worth-getting-excited-about/ https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-...
- Legogris 7y ago
  Yes, even if they're a tad bit on the large side of what I'm looking for they're still looking quite compelling - unfortunately relevant models are not on sale in my region and the pricing becomes less attractive after shipping and import duties.