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In Rome, on top of the church of Saint Ignatius (you know the one that has a tromp l'oeil dome), just behind the building that used to house the very first Jesu
by carlob 7y ago
In Rome, on top of the church of Saint Ignatius (you know the one that has a tromp l'oeil dome), just behind the building that used to house the very first Jesuit school (ask a Jesuit and they will say the very first school in the modern sense), used to be the Vatican astronomical observatory. Nowadays there is nothing much left to see, since all of the scientific instruments were moved to a museum in Florence when Rome became part of Italy in 1870. The place is not open to the public, but if you know a friendly Jesuit you can take an elevator from within the church and take a look around.
The first time I went there, the Jesuit who was accompanying me told me that Galileo had visited this place, and that the story of church vs. science that we've all learnt in school was very simplified. Apparently Riccioli defended a hybrid geo-heliocentric model (due to Tycho Brahe) where the earth is at the center of the universe, the sun and moon revolve around it, but all the other planets revolve around the sun. We now know neither the sun, nor the earth is at the center of the universe, so both models were equally wrong, however according to my Jesuit guide, Riccioli's point of view was the only one that would have been both theologically acceptable and scientifically sound.
I guess what is really wrong about the classical story of Galileo's trial is that the catholic church is not and never was a monolithic entity: there are factions, dissent, political agendas.
If you're interested in further reading on Riccioli the Wikipedia page is very detailed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Riccioli#Arguments_Concerning_the_Motion_of_the_Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Riccioli#Arg...
- throw0101a 7y ago> used to be the Vatican astronomical observatory. The observatory was later moved to Castle Gandolfo: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory After the light pollution got too bad, its use was retired, and now things are run out of Arizona: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Advanced_Technology_Telescope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Advanced_Technology_Te... The head dude is Brother Guy, and he has some interesting interviews if you search for him: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Consolmagno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Consolmagno
- martinbalsam 7y agowhat a coincidence, edu-Youtuber Brady Haran just uploaded three videos about the Vatican Observatory, a long interview with brother Guy and the their collection of space rocks: The Pope's Space Rocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OI4wb2XIZc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OI4wb2XIZc The Pope's Telescopes - Deep Sky Videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccoGKAL6Qas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccoGKAL6Qas The Pope's Astronomer - Sixty Symbols https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0DAKaR16cY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0DAKaR16cY