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Yes and no. Coworking spaces exist but there's nothing like not being interrupted to supposedly "watch someone's laptop"* when you're trying to get things done

Yes and no. Coworking spaces exist but there's nothing like not being interrupted to supposedly "watch someone's laptop"* when you're trying to get things done. * You should take a picture of it and list it for sale on Craiglist as part of a joke.

stevenicr 7y ago
As soon as they are out of sight you run over and start installing preyproject onto it and add a cable lock while that's going on. run back. email them an invoice. I mean if people assume you are going to watch over their stuff like it's your own, it's the right thing to do right?
- stevenicr 7y ago
  Wow - that escalated quickly - should of added the sarcasm flag to it. Certainly it's not okay to tamper with someone else's system without their permission. I would suggest they just take it with them, I would not leave mine laying out for other's to watch. Maybe I should of suggested having a battery powered 360 camera on hand, perhaps shaped like the blue yeti microphones and painted like an eye? Surely there is or one could be made / adapted to have an app where they can watch their laptop from the loo.. or rewind and see if anyone got near it. Maybe just a battery for a wise cam that can last 20 minutes. That way storage and app is and detection is already done. Put into a minion or sauron tower / all seeing eye and it would be easy to keep an eye on it while keeping your eyes to your own projects.
  - foldr 7y ago
    Why do you have such a big issue with doing someone a small favor? It really greases the wheels of society a bit if people help each other out in small ways.
    - spottybanana 7y ago
      I've never had any problems if someone else asks me to watch their belongings in coffee shop etc. Doesn't really disturb me at all.
      - em-bee 7y ago
        it's disturbing when you are thinking about maybe leaving, or waiting for someone and then you need to leave right away but now you are committed to stay. otherwise, i watch others stuff instinctively even without bring asked. like neighborhood watch. you just keep an eye out for each other.
      - stevenicr 7y ago
        I'm with you on the not really minding to watch a bit - I mean if their table is in front of me or within what 145 degrees or so viewing angle? I'm going to notice any movement of object larger than a rat in the area, and would not hesitate to say hey bud, that other person is gonna be right back or something.. On the other hand I want to help others be more secure, and taking a backpack or case to the bathroom is not a huge deal (in most places) - and is generally more secure. This past week we had some run through the bar at ocharleys a mile from here grabbing purses hanging on bar stools and sitting on tables then run out the door and through a hole in a fence. It would be shitty to be accused of being in cahoots with someone snatch and grabbing.. and people should be aware that sometimes that person you ask to watch your X will be tempted to steal your X. And more tempted by knowing you are going to the latrine than to the soda machine.
    - stevenicr 7y ago
      Sorry it seemed like I don't want to help someone - I was trying to add to the GP's thing about how he/she does not enjoy co working spaces because of broken concentration by others asking to watch their stuff. Of course I would help keep an eye out, but I would also like to help that person with other security / safety measure too, so they would be more secure in the future - I think some people need a little auto-flag / light that pops up saying "I'm in the zone, don't break my flow" - I can relate to working on a thing and several side issues pop up that remain in short-term attention memory while changing code.. and getting through the mental checklist - and then get interrupted by family.. and try to come back and spend an extra 20-30 minutes trying to remember.. I could of closed my door, and should have - so it's not their fault.. so I see both sides of it. Generally speaking I would prefer to be social and helpful and can get my groove / flow back anyhow - so certainly being available to be present with other humans is often a higher priority. I also understand some others may have deadlines or whatever. Also - what happens if someone else distracts you and you don't keep an eye on the laptop and something happens to it. Or what happens if two guys in black suits with sunglasses pop in and swap the laptop and look at you and give you the shh and finger gun to the head. I mean, what a predicament to be in. I know none of that will ever happen, but someone's competition, an ex lover - I mean any sorts of things - many laptops are just value of the hardware sure, but some are data on the device and that could be a lot of responsibility - I'm just sayin' - if it's not a chromebook, lets get some more layers of security! and an odd "all seeing eye" could not only be semi-cool tech, but a conversation starter if that's part of the appeal of engaging in the 'hey I'm running to the toilet' starter :) Now, how to make an auto-do-not-disturb- I'm-in-the-zone, not-on-facebook bluetooth light/sign that detects typing in visual-studio/sublime/notepad++/jetbrains vs scrolling some web page. Might need to be more than a red/green light busy/not-to-busy; maybe do-not-bother (writing code)/available-to-chat(reading-perhaps)/please-save-me (I've been on reddit/fbook more than 30 minutes).
cerberusss 7y ago
> "watch someone's laptop" I'm that guy. Whenever I need to work in a coffee shop, I ask this of a coworker. Do you really feel like it's too intrusive? I never thought it would be a problem.
- pistoriusp 7y ago
  I think it's part of the social contract when working in a coffee shop. You're in public, drinking coffee, and people need to use the restroom... It's OK to ask people for help. Getting upset at something is similar to people getting upset when they're bumped on public transport. You're in a cramped space, that's moving, and that people are entering and leaving, what else would you expect?
- coldpie 7y ago
  Honestly, just go. No one's going to steal your stuff, and if they did, some stranger isn't going to stop them.
  - cerberusss 7y ago
    You don't back up your assertion that, even after asking, some stranger isn't going to stop them. But I distinctly remember a scientific experiment that said otherwise. I googled and found this popular reporting: https://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=7091942 https://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=7091942

stevenicr 7y ago

As soon as they are out of sight you run over and start installing preyproject onto it and add a cable lock while that's going on. run back. email them an invoice. I mean if people assume you are going to watch over their stuff like it's your own, it's the right thing to do right?

stevenicr 7y ago
Wow - that escalated quickly - should of added the sarcasm flag to it. Certainly it's not okay to tamper with someone else's system without their permission. I would suggest they just take it with them, I would not leave mine laying out for other's to watch. Maybe I should of suggested having a battery powered 360 camera on hand, perhaps shaped like the blue yeti microphones and painted like an eye? Surely there is or one could be made / adapted to have an app where they can watch their laptop from the loo.. or rewind and see if anyone got near it. Maybe just a battery for a wise cam that can last 20 minutes. That way storage and app is and detection is already done. Put into a minion or sauron tower / all seeing eye and it would be easy to keep an eye on it while keeping your eyes to your own projects.
- foldr 7y ago
  Why do you have such a big issue with doing someone a small favor? It really greases the wheels of society a bit if people help each other out in small ways.
  - spottybanana 7y ago
    I've never had any problems if someone else asks me to watch their belongings in coffee shop etc. Doesn't really disturb me at all.
    - em-bee 7y ago
      it's disturbing when you are thinking about maybe leaving, or waiting for someone and then you need to leave right away but now you are committed to stay. otherwise, i watch others stuff instinctively even without bring asked. like neighborhood watch. you just keep an eye out for each other.
    - stevenicr 7y ago
      I'm with you on the not really minding to watch a bit - I mean if their table is in front of me or within what 145 degrees or so viewing angle? I'm going to notice any movement of object larger than a rat in the area, and would not hesitate to say hey bud, that other person is gonna be right back or something.. On the other hand I want to help others be more secure, and taking a backpack or case to the bathroom is not a huge deal (in most places) - and is generally more secure. This past week we had some run through the bar at ocharleys a mile from here grabbing purses hanging on bar stools and sitting on tables then run out the door and through a hole in a fence. It would be shitty to be accused of being in cahoots with someone snatch and grabbing.. and people should be aware that sometimes that person you ask to watch your X will be tempted to steal your X. And more tempted by knowing you are going to the latrine than to the soda machine.
  - stevenicr 7y ago
    Sorry it seemed like I don't want to help someone - I was trying to add to the GP's thing about how he/she does not enjoy co working spaces because of broken concentration by others asking to watch their stuff. Of course I would help keep an eye out, but I would also like to help that person with other security / safety measure too, so they would be more secure in the future - I think some people need a little auto-flag / light that pops up saying "I'm in the zone, don't break my flow" - I can relate to working on a thing and several side issues pop up that remain in short-term attention memory while changing code.. and getting through the mental checklist - and then get interrupted by family.. and try to come back and spend an extra 20-30 minutes trying to remember.. I could of closed my door, and should have - so it's not their fault.. so I see both sides of it. Generally speaking I would prefer to be social and helpful and can get my groove / flow back anyhow - so certainly being available to be present with other humans is often a higher priority. I also understand some others may have deadlines or whatever. Also - what happens if someone else distracts you and you don't keep an eye on the laptop and something happens to it. Or what happens if two guys in black suits with sunglasses pop in and swap the laptop and look at you and give you the shh and finger gun to the head. I mean, what a predicament to be in. I know none of that will ever happen, but someone's competition, an ex lover - I mean any sorts of things - many laptops are just value of the hardware sure, but some are data on the device and that could be a lot of responsibility - I'm just sayin' - if it's not a chromebook, lets get some more layers of security! and an odd "all seeing eye" could not only be semi-cool tech, but a conversation starter if that's part of the appeal of engaging in the 'hey I'm running to the toilet' starter :) Now, how to make an auto-do-not-disturb- I'm-in-the-zone, not-on-facebook bluetooth light/sign that detects typing in visual-studio/sublime/notepad++/jetbrains vs scrolling some web page. Might need to be more than a red/green light busy/not-to-busy; maybe do-not-bother (writing code)/available-to-chat(reading-perhaps)/please-save-me (I've been on reddit/fbook more than 30 minutes).

cerberusss 7y ago

> "watch someone's laptop" I'm that guy. Whenever I need to work in a coffee shop, I ask this of a coworker. Do you really feel like it's too intrusive? I never thought it would be a problem.

pistoriusp 7y ago
I think it's part of the social contract when working in a coffee shop. You're in public, drinking coffee, and people need to use the restroom... It's OK to ask people for help. Getting upset at something is similar to people getting upset when they're bumped on public transport. You're in a cramped space, that's moving, and that people are entering and leaving, what else would you expect?
coldpie 7y ago
Honestly, just go. No one's going to steal your stuff, and if they did, some stranger isn't going to stop them.
- cerberusss 7y ago
  You don't back up your assertion that, even after asking, some stranger isn't going to stop them. But I distinctly remember a scientific experiment that said otherwise. I googled and found this popular reporting: https://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=7091942 https://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=7091942