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> None of this is meant to say macOS is garbage or anything like that. I think an OS as prolific as macOS having such shit UX kind of implies it is garbage tho

> None of this is meant to say macOS is garbage or anything like that. I think an OS as prolific as macOS having such shit UX kind of implies it is garbage though. The year is 2020 and macOS still doesn't have a location/address bar in Finder. Basic native UI interfaces still completely lack keyboard controls. Window snapping is still non-existent. I understand Apple strive to be different, but lacking these basic features (among many others) makes macOS have an arguably inferior workflow to Windows or Linux/BSD DEs. Excluding these things are not unique and quirky subjective design choices Apple can continue get away with. They are baseline expectations for a workstation computing environment to meet, which macOS does not. The way I see it, macOS is increasingly falling behind in UX. Not only have Apple failed to make their own improvements and innovations; they've failed to keep pace with Microsoft and the Open Source community. Posted from my 2019 MacBook Pro

saagarjha 7y ago
> The year is 2020 and macOS still doesn't have a location/address bar in Finder. ⌥⌘P > The year is 2020 and macOS still doesn't have a location/address bar in Finder. System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Use keyboard navigation to move between controls > Window snapping is still non-existent. Not completely: you can do two windows side-by-side, and resizing windows now makes them snap to each other and edges.
- wyqydsyq 7y ago
  > ⌥⌘P Those are breadcrumbs, not an address bar. Note the fact you cannot type or paste a path into it, as is a core feature in practically every file manager in every other OS. There is no apparent difference to breaking this convention, beyond impairing users' workflows. Finder also has the "Go to" dialogue, but again, it is a functionally inferior solution. There is absolutely no good reason for these design choices other than to "be different for the sake of it" at the expense of good UX
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    How is "Go to Folder" worse? Finder just splits the two actions up…
    - wyqydsyq 7y ago
      Unlike address bars in other OS file managers: - Finder Go To does not provide suggestions/completions (unless there is only one single match in the current folder, it'll complete the name of that) - Finder Go To does not respect the current directory (it always uses `~/Library`) making relative navigation tedious - It's an entirely separate action and UX flow for absolutely no good reason In any other OS one can open the file manager, press Ctrl+L and start typing a path, pressing tab at any point to get contextual completion suggestions.
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        I'm not sure what you're using (⇧⌘G, right?) but mine does all of those things. It gives me multiple suggestions if there is more than one match, and it lets you enter a directory in your current path if you just type that folder's name.

saagarjha 7y ago

> The year is 2020 and macOS still doesn't have a location/address bar in Finder. ⌥⌘P > The year is 2020 and macOS still doesn't have a location/address bar in Finder. System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Use keyboard navigation to move between controls > Window snapping is still non-existent. Not completely: you can do two windows side-by-side, and resizing windows now makes them snap to each other and edges.

wyqydsyq 7y ago
> ⌥⌘P Those are breadcrumbs, not an address bar. Note the fact you cannot type or paste a path into it, as is a core feature in practically every file manager in every other OS. There is no apparent difference to breaking this convention, beyond impairing users' workflows. Finder also has the "Go to" dialogue, but again, it is a functionally inferior solution. There is absolutely no good reason for these design choices other than to "be different for the sake of it" at the expense of good UX
- saagarjha 7y ago
  How is "Go to Folder" worse? Finder just splits the two actions up…
  - wyqydsyq 7y ago
    Unlike address bars in other OS file managers: - Finder Go To does not provide suggestions/completions (unless there is only one single match in the current folder, it'll complete the name of that) - Finder Go To does not respect the current directory (it always uses `~/Library`) making relative navigation tedious - It's an entirely separate action and UX flow for absolutely no good reason In any other OS one can open the file manager, press Ctrl+L and start typing a path, pressing tab at any point to get contextual completion suggestions.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      I'm not sure what you're using (⇧⌘G, right?) but mine does all of those things. It gives me multiple suggestions if there is more than one match, and it lets you enter a directory in your current path if you just type that folder's name.