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Anything by association is part of reality and I'm not sure how people are supposed to negotiate with that. If you march with a KKK rally, are you associated wi

Anything by association is part of reality and I'm not sure how people are supposed to negotiate with that. If you march with a KKK rally, are you associated with the KKK now? Also, presumably not everything the KKK does is bad. Is it wrong that people in the KKK are all lumped together? These are all questions of guilt by association, no?

sneak 7y ago
Loading a webpage is not a show of support for the operators of that webpage. I have in the past loaded Gab, 8chan, and Facebook in my browser. Am I “linked to” the users of those platforms that have committed mass murder?
- aclarry 7y ago
  No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure. Plus that's kind of two degrees removed from the original comment. If someone who does a horrible thing cites a community as a motivation/inspiration, yeah that group should absolutely at least think about what that says about them. It's not an immediate condemnation of guilt, but if there's strong evidence that that community's behaviour or ideology provided motivation, or if there's a repeated pattern, then it's a problem. The alternative is to say there's nothing wrong with white supremacists because all those people who commit racial violence citing white supremacy are just incidentally related, or that there's nothing wrong with gangs because we should avoid "linking" people who commit gang violence to their associates.
  - sneak 7y ago
    > No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure. There was a lady who used YouTube in April 2018 who went to Google and shot three people. I recently engaged positively with YouTube. I also engaged positively with YouTube in April 2018. Am I linked to a shooter simply because we used and enjoyed the same content on the same website?

sneak 7y ago

Loading a webpage is not a show of support for the operators of that webpage. I have in the past loaded Gab, 8chan, and Facebook in my browser. Am I “linked to” the users of those platforms that have committed mass murder?

aclarry 7y ago
No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure. Plus that's kind of two degrees removed from the original comment. If someone who does a horrible thing cites a community as a motivation/inspiration, yeah that group should absolutely at least think about what that says about them. It's not an immediate condemnation of guilt, but if there's strong evidence that that community's behaviour or ideology provided motivation, or if there's a repeated pattern, then it's a problem. The alternative is to say there's nothing wrong with white supremacists because all those people who commit racial violence citing white supremacy are just incidentally related, or that there's nothing wrong with gangs because we should avoid "linking" people who commit gang violence to their associates.
- sneak 7y ago
  > No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure. There was a lady who used YouTube in April 2018 who went to Google and shot three people. I recently engaged positively with YouTube. I also engaged positively with YouTube in April 2018. Am I linked to a shooter simply because we used and enjoyed the same content on the same website?