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Redecentralize.org
- geoah 7y agoVideos can be also found on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/user/redecentralize https://www.youtube.com/user/redecentralize
- mrandish 7y agoVery cool initiative and it seems to have some good folks involved.
- rapnie 7y agoCool. Though their forum still is a Google Group..
- mongro1 7y agoLooks abandoned.
- Shank 7y agoPhilosophical arguments to decentralize everything are great, but literally nobody outside of this industry cares. The key to success, ironically, for decentralization, is for everyone to care. The first step is to ship a product people actually want to use that has tangible benefits: right now, every philosophical site like this is dead on arrival because it requires ground swell that doesn't exist without a compelling product.
- tastyfreeze 7y agoI would say the key to decentralization success is making decentralized services that users don't even know are decentralized. As long as using a decentralized service requires more effort than centralized services it will only be enthusiasts using the products.
- chrysoprace 7y agoThis is crux of the problem with their take-off. A few weeks ago I set up a personal Matrix homeserver and when my non-technical partner asked me what I was working on I didn't even know where to start. She is not computer-illiterate by any means, but being outside the industry, a concept such as federation is completely foreign. Even trying to explain federation to my work colleagues who are in the industry is difficult, because it is such a fundamental shift from the normal web infrastructure.
- cvwright 7y agoI usually just tell people that Matrix works like email. You have your server, and it relays messages back and forth to other people’s servers for you.
- mandelbrotwurst 7y agoDo they understand that or do they just hear email as Gmail, say "oh, ok" and go on with their lives?
- cvwright 7y agoI think most people still understand that you can email people on different systems - Hotmail, work accounts, school accounts, etc.
- mandelbrotwurst 7y agoThey do, but what I think they might not understand is that there is a protocol behind it all that at least theoretically allows for anyone to run their own server without a third party, which I think is the aspect of e-mail that you're trying to call attention to, no? Part of the point that I'm trying to make is that e-mail as it stands today - with the majority of messages going through the servers of a single corporation - isn't all that decentralized in practice. When you mention e-mail to the layperson without additional explanation, what they have in mind is a fairly centralized system.
- dang 7y agoA thread from 2013: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6543846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6543846
- strbean 7y agoI feel like home NATs were one of the biggest developments that curbed decentralization and led to the dominance of a "producer vs. consumer" internet. STUN/TURN and IPv6 are big enablers of a move back to the roots of the internet, right?
- swizzler 7y agoSyncthing runs relays to keep the user from knowing/caring: https://docs.syncthing.net/users/relaying.html https://docs.syncthing.net/users/relaying.html
- viraptor 7y agoNot all, but a lot of home routers will block any incoming connections. Even if you have an IPv6 address, you'll need manual configuration or something like upnp to make it work. And with the current systems we have available... it's probably better that way.
- ghthor 7y agoSTUN and TURN are protocols that help you open connections through a NAT wall
- viraptor 7y agoTrue. Although those are not great solutions. Stun may simply fail with weird routers, or because there's lots of new connections and ports are not guessed correctly. Turn requires tunneling your traffic through a third party. Both still need you to actively reach outside and advertise your availability via some openly reachable node. It's a massive pita for reliable consumer VoIP.
- mindslight 7y agoNAT isn't the problem. Most NAT punching isn't terribly hard after a lightweight rendezvous. And VPSs with public IPs have been available for $20/mo for the past decade and a half. The problem is the user experience of p2p software, due to less funding to polish it up and market it hard, due to its fundamental goal of eliminating middlemen.
- smoyer 7y agoI like the idea, want to participate but am NOT signing up for yet another stupid newsletter. Please publish an RSS feed (I see that it's Github Pages ... perhaps your site generator can do it?)! Someone noted that the forums are Google Groups and the site, blog etc. are hosted on Github. Shouldn't dog-fooding inherently be part of this strategy?
- outworlder 7y ago> Shouldn't dog-fooding inherently be part of this strategy? This makes sense. But it's a catch-22.
- prepend 7y agoI didn’t know there were Jekyll templates with rss. I’d send a pr, but Im not into a project trying to promote decentralization that adds a donate button before an RSS feed.
- emsimot 7y agoLooks like RSS links are on each separate page https://redecentralize.org/radar/feed.rss https://redecentralize.org/radar/feed.rss https://redecentralize.org/podcast/feed.rss https://redecentralize.org/podcast/feed.rss
- smoyer 7y agoFunny! ... I only looked at the blog page (my bad)
- Deimorz 7y agoInoreader recently added support for subscribing to email newsletters with an email address it gives you and it acts like they're an RSS feed and combines it into all your other subscriptions: https://blog.inoreader.com/2020/02/declutter-your-inbox-subscribe-to-email-newsletters-straight-into-inoreader.html https://blog.inoreader.com/2020/02/declutter-your-inbox-subs... Might not be enough to switch for if you're already happy with what you use for RSS, but I think it's a great feature.
- marknadal 7y agoWe're doing this! Just hit 19M+ monthly users. In production with Internet Archive, HackerNoon, etc. ( https://github.com/amark/gun https://github.com/amark/gun ) Scaling systems that have to run out of the browser by default is tough, but we're doing this on $0 in server costs, in javascript, with millions of users.
- jshevek 7y agoI'm disappointed to see a 'decentralization' platform promoting a product which promotes Pocket. And this in its top 5 recommendations, even. I understand the problem of purity spiraling vs pragmatism, but at least they should have a warning "this product promotes services which are antagonistic to decentralization."
- reportgunner 7y agoLet's redecentralize by centralizing your e-mail addresses in our mailing list.
- soapdog 7y agoI've been to some events here in London organized by redecentralize.org, they were fantastic. I'm quite active in that sphere, mostly SSB for me, so going there was like being a fish returning to the sea. I've learned so much and was so energized with all the conversations and demos. If you're in London or nearby, I advise to keep an eye for the next event and don't miss it. If you end up going and don't know anyone, look for me, I'm usually with a adesive with the same nick you see here. I'll introduce you to people and show you cool tech.
- openfuture 7y agoI was reading their list of technology (https://github.com/redecentralize/alternative-internet https://github.com/redecentralize/alternative-internet) and I think book looks really good, it's solid time-tested technology and I can't believe I'd never seen it in the 'alternative-internet' scene.
- redecentralize 7y agoThanks all - we actually updated the website today!