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I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comment

I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. If you can find similar content on left leaning subreddits on a regular basis that doesn't get reported and deleted right away, then I'd be happy to entertain your theory, but I have not seen it. Also, the Donald wasn't quarantined until a few months ago, which is long long after The_Donald peaked and started popping up on r/all.

defertoreptar 7y ago
I wasn't just talking about the_donald, but the broader effects of no longer having the promise of a "secret ballot." When people know their vote is being observed, they change their behavior. My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority.
- wtallis 7y ago
  > My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority. If you cannot support a political position without consistently violating Reddit's rules that do not restrict any normal behaviors of reasonable political debate, then what you're supporting probably shouldn't be described merely as a "political minority".
  - defertoreptar 7y ago
    Your assumption here is that the enforcement of the new rule will be executed perfectly and without bias, and further that people will believe it will be enforced that way. This totally misses my central point.
    - wtallis 7y ago
      > Your assumption here is that the enforcement of the new rule will be executed perfectly and without bias, Not at all. Even if Reddit was completely biased and never enforced the rules against liberal-oriented cesspools, that wouldn't make T_D's current norms and behaviors any more acceptable. The only problem is if you believe that Reddit will go far beyond their stated content rules and start punishing civilized discourse on the basis of political alignment. That would have a damaging chilling effect, but I think it's pretty clear Reddit has their hands full with rebellious mods and users who aren't even trying to stay within the posted rules and are making plenty of posts that really should be removed no matter where you fall on the spectrum of political beliefs.
      - defertoreptar 7y ago
        Then they should remove those rule-breaking posts and ban the posters, but that's already the case. My point is that I think political minority users will believe that they may be punished for upvoting content that doesn't explicitly break the rules. It doesn't even need to be true. As long as users believe it, that will be enough to impact their behavior. In fact, it's already enough just to know that big brother is watching what you upvote. This passively results in upvoted political content being more in line with Reddit's political bias.
Bendingo 7y ago
> I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. I also check out t_d occasionally and have never seen a single threat of anything. On the contrary, the community seems well self-regulated. I have often seen comments that are overly harsh (such as unnecessary personal insults) being condemned by other posters for being disrespectful. I have never seen this on any other forum. IMO t_d is a model for free, open and respectful self-regulated discussion.
xenophonium 7y ago
Yeah, because r/anarchism, a sub run by people who literally want to be executing people in the streets in the name of revolution, totally doesn't have far more extreme users who post far more extreme content all the time and get away with it.
xenophonium 7y ago
Yeah it's tinfoil hat to think that leftists like to ban dissenting opinions, this thread isn't full of lots of people who agree with that approach or anything.

defertoreptar 7y ago

I wasn't just talking about the_donald, but the broader effects of no longer having the promise of a "secret ballot." When people know their vote is being observed, they change their behavior. My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority.

wtallis 7y ago
> My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority. If you cannot support a political position without consistently violating Reddit's rules that do not restrict any normal behaviors of reasonable political debate, then what you're supporting probably shouldn't be described merely as a "political minority".
- defertoreptar 7y ago
  Your assumption here is that the enforcement of the new rule will be executed perfectly and without bias, and further that people will believe it will be enforced that way. This totally misses my central point.
  - wtallis 7y ago
    > Your assumption here is that the enforcement of the new rule will be executed perfectly and without bias, Not at all. Even if Reddit was completely biased and never enforced the rules against liberal-oriented cesspools, that wouldn't make T_D's current norms and behaviors any more acceptable. The only problem is if you believe that Reddit will go far beyond their stated content rules and start punishing civilized discourse on the basis of political alignment. That would have a damaging chilling effect, but I think it's pretty clear Reddit has their hands full with rebellious mods and users who aren't even trying to stay within the posted rules and are making plenty of posts that really should be removed no matter where you fall on the spectrum of political beliefs.
    - defertoreptar 7y ago
      Then they should remove those rule-breaking posts and ban the posters, but that's already the case. My point is that I think political minority users will believe that they may be punished for upvoting content that doesn't explicitly break the rules. It doesn't even need to be true. As long as users believe it, that will be enough to impact their behavior. In fact, it's already enough just to know that big brother is watching what you upvote. This passively results in upvoted political content being more in line with Reddit's political bias.

Bendingo 7y ago

> I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. I also check out t_d occasionally and have never seen a single threat of anything. On the contrary, the community seems well self-regulated. I have often seen comments that are overly harsh (such as unnecessary personal insults) being condemned by other posters for being disrespectful. I have never seen this on any other forum. IMO t_d is a model for free, open and respectful self-regulated discussion.

xenophonium 7y ago

Yeah, because r/anarchism, a sub run by people who literally want to be executing people in the streets in the name of revolution, totally doesn't have far more extreme users who post far more extreme content all the time and get away with it.

xenophonium 7y ago

Yeah it's tinfoil hat to think that leftists like to ban dissenting opinions, this thread isn't full of lots of people who agree with that approach or anything.