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There's no sides here, and the particular reason for failure doesn't matter. This is a disease that will kill people. Letting people go untested out into the

There's no sides here, and the particular reason for failure doesn't matter. This is a disease that will kill people. Letting people go untested out into the wild is not going to help. People fuck up, that's what people do, leaders catch and acknowledge failure early and try to fix it. Unfortunately, at this point, people will die that didn't have to. And that's going to be because: 1. Tons of people weren't tested that should have been. 2. People can't afford to get a test because of the health insurance situation in this country. Aggressive no cost testing would help, I'm sure trump is going to announce that here any minute for a problem that he doesn't think is real.

onceUponADime 7y ago
Dont forget the problem of declaring people ilegal and pushing other population groups (drug addicts) with draconian measures into the underground, where they infect one another in horrible conditions, and make any quarantine impossible. If any measure should be take, then for the time of the epidemic, the ICE and similar agencys - should be frozzen or recommendered to the CDC, and a general amnesty for any illegal health related problem announced.Im certain that seems insane to some conservatives, but the other approach is self-sabotage on a titanic level.
- jethro_tell 7y ago
  This is true for sure. This virus will be hiding in the corners of society for a while and will keep popping up for a bit.
s1artibartfast 7y ago
I find your post really interesting and am having trouble unpacking it. It seems to me that there are many contradictions, but perhaps I missunderstood. You say that there are no sides, but end by railing on trump. You say that the reason for failure doesn't matter, but provide a list of reasons. You claim that health insurance is the cause of no testing, when the article stated that the CDC refused to conduct or approve testing. If you sentiment is that this is not the time to focus on partisanship, I wholeheartedly agree. If you sentiment is we should be solution minded, I wholeheartedly agree. The focus should be on determining what we can do NOW to save the most lives. There will be plenty of time later to assign blame and discuss long term fixes.
- hanniabu 7y ago
  > You say that there are no sides, but end by railing on trump. He means it's not a partisan thing. Trump is still the person calling the shots. > You say that the reason for failure doesn't matter, but provide a list of reasons. I think you're misunderstanding here on what the reasons he's referring to, which are why we're in this situation - those don't matter. The reasons that he provided are the reasons why this is an issue.
downerending 7y ago
Agree on no sides, and it was heartening to hear Gabbard chide everyone for squabbling. It appears that there simply aren't enough test kits available for wide-spread testing, so it's rational for CDC to try to use what they have wisely. It also appears that we'd be in that situation no matter who had won in 2016.
- jethro_tell 7y ago
  This is a failing on the CDC that reports to Trump. If you view this as a threat, this should be an easy problem for the US government to solve. The fact that it wasn't is the failing. And failure is on leadership.

onceUponADime 7y ago

Dont forget the problem of declaring people ilegal and pushing other population groups (drug addicts) with draconian measures into the underground, where they infect one another in horrible conditions, and make any quarantine impossible. If any measure should be take, then for the time of the epidemic, the ICE and similar agencys - should be frozzen or recommendered to the CDC, and a general amnesty for any illegal health related problem announced.Im certain that seems insane to some conservatives, but the other approach is self-sabotage on a titanic level.

jethro_tell 7y ago
This is true for sure. This virus will be hiding in the corners of society for a while and will keep popping up for a bit.

s1artibartfast 7y ago

I find your post really interesting and am having trouble unpacking it. It seems to me that there are many contradictions, but perhaps I missunderstood. You say that there are no sides, but end by railing on trump. You say that the reason for failure doesn't matter, but provide a list of reasons. You claim that health insurance is the cause of no testing, when the article stated that the CDC refused to conduct or approve testing. If you sentiment is that this is not the time to focus on partisanship, I wholeheartedly agree. If you sentiment is we should be solution minded, I wholeheartedly agree. The focus should be on determining what we can do NOW to save the most lives. There will be plenty of time later to assign blame and discuss long term fixes.

hanniabu 7y ago
> You say that there are no sides, but end by railing on trump. He means it's not a partisan thing. Trump is still the person calling the shots. > You say that the reason for failure doesn't matter, but provide a list of reasons. I think you're misunderstanding here on what the reasons he's referring to, which are why we're in this situation - those don't matter. The reasons that he provided are the reasons why this is an issue.

downerending 7y ago

Agree on no sides, and it was heartening to hear Gabbard chide everyone for squabbling. It appears that there simply aren't enough test kits available for wide-spread testing, so it's rational for CDC to try to use what they have wisely. It also appears that we'd be in that situation no matter who had won in 2016.

jethro_tell 7y ago
This is a failing on the CDC that reports to Trump. If you view this as a threat, this should be an easy problem for the US government to solve. The fact that it wasn't is the failing. And failure is on leadership.