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>What makes you say EU expats were easier target to underpay in contrast to non-EU ones? Easy - EU nationals had the right to work so no visa requirements at a

by Zenst 7y ago

>What makes you say EU expats were easier target to underpay in contrast to non-EU ones? Easy - EU nationals had the right to work so no visa requirements at all, which would entail having a certain level of salary - now that will apply to all - how can that not be fairer? Though remote workers will always be a thing - especially in tech, so there are always ways around everything.

ChuckNorris89 7y ago
Don't think your argument holds water. I understand your non-EU expat friends are happy with less competition on the market, but the minimum salary a highly skilled non-EU expat had to have to qualify for visa was in the 36K ball park which is comically low for someone advertised as highly skilled on UK(mostly South of England) CoL. There is no way any highly skilled EU expat would work for less than that to argument that they're responsible for wage dumping. EU expats are avoiding the UK now not because they might not meet the new visa requirements, but because of the insecurity Brexit brought and they have other equally attractive options like BeNeLux, Scandinavia, Switzerland or Germany.
- mikekchar 7y ago
  I may be misunderstanding, but my interpretation of the other commenter's words was that migrants from the EU who traditionally held low paying jobs would no longer be able to come in to do those jobs. It's not related to the higher paying jobs that those on a skilled worker visa would get. The downside, of course, is that UK businesses will have to pay more for the unskilled labour than they were previously. This, in turn, may make them less competitive against EU companies that have access to low cost unskilled labour.
- Zenst 7y ago
  Many highly skilled tech workers are not great when it comes to salary negotiations and many look for the opportunities and for some the location appeal. I've worked with EU nationals with some amazing skills beyond their salary level and been on less than 30k a year. Totally agree, why would they want to work here when better opportunities and cheaper living costs, London is darn expensive, as are many parts of the UK. For me Estonia was always the best choice even when the UK was in the EU.

by Zenst 7y ago

ChuckNorris89 7y ago

Don't think your argument holds water. I understand your non-EU expat friends are happy with less competition on the market, but the minimum salary a highly skilled non-EU expat had to have to qualify for visa was in the 36K ball park which is comically low for someone advertised as highly skilled on UK(mostly South of England) CoL. There is no way any highly skilled EU expat would work for less than that to argument that they're responsible for wage dumping. EU expats are avoiding the UK now not because they might not meet the new visa requirements, but because of the insecurity Brexit brought and they have other equally attractive options like BeNeLux, Scandinavia, Switzerland or Germany.

mikekchar 7y ago
I may be misunderstanding, but my interpretation of the other commenter's words was that migrants from the EU who traditionally held low paying jobs would no longer be able to come in to do those jobs. It's not related to the higher paying jobs that those on a skilled worker visa would get. The downside, of course, is that UK businesses will have to pay more for the unskilled labour than they were previously. This, in turn, may make them less competitive against EU companies that have access to low cost unskilled labour.
Zenst 7y ago
Many highly skilled tech workers are not great when it comes to salary negotiations and many look for the opportunities and for some the location appeal. I've worked with EU nationals with some amazing skills beyond their salary level and been on less than 30k a year. Totally agree, why would they want to work here when better opportunities and cheaper living costs, London is darn expensive, as are many parts of the UK. For me Estonia was always the best choice even when the UK was in the EU.