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> "The people in SF aren't magical; people outside of SF can do the job just as well." We agree. But if there's expertise in SF that you can't get anywhere els
by bad_user 7y ago
> "The people in SF aren't magical; people outside of SF can do the job just as well."
We agree. But if there's expertise in SF that you can't get anywhere else, then you end up hiring from SF too.
In my experience this is exactly what happens with companies working with remote workers, they only hire from SF or NYC or other expensive cities when they don't have a better choice.
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> "In my experience, fully remote teams are much better at communicating than mixed or onsite-only teams. Why do you think remote work brings poor communications?"
I have more than 10 years of experience working remotely and sometimes I hate it. Functional remote teams are better at communicating, yes, but that's survivorship bias [1] in action ... the people themselves are better, due to the selection process.
Communication skills can be honed of course, but the people have to have an inclination for it and they have to be capable of self management. I have no idea if better education and better processes can indeed make a difference, but I've seen people and companies failing hard at remote work and the companies that succeed in working remotely are those with a strong culture for it, a culture that's not easy to build. And their hiring process does tend to select for those capable to function well remotely.
N.b. I know this is a total anecdote, sometimes I wish we used the scientific method in advancing this field, but alas we don't.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
- JimDabell 7y ago> Functional remote teams are better at communicating, yes, but that's survivorship bias I agree with this, I just don't think that factor has any practical relevance to this particular discussion. Remote companies that aren't good at communicating are dead companies, and dead companies don't hire anybody. So what's the point in even considering them in this type of discussion? In this case survivorship bias is just filtering out irrelevant noise. If a remote company is hiring, then you can be pretty confident they are good communicators. With the exception of extremely early-stage companies of course, in which case all bets are off.