I mean, sure, but looking at the last five years they are getting destroyed by clouds. Amazon, Google, and long-time nemesis Microsoft are all dramatically out

I mean, sure, but looking at the last five years they are getting destroyed by clouds. Amazon, Google, and long-time nemesis Microsoft are all dramatically outperforming Oracle. Nobody wants Oracle's cloud products. The companies that are doing worse than Oracle are other dinosaurs like IBM and Dell. Even VMWare is beating them.