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I see you rely on electricity, internet, Windows (booh!), 435 different NPM modules (counting transitivity), and the continuing existence of humanity. You shou

I see you rely on electricity, internet, Windows (booh!), 435 different NPM modules (counting transitivity), and the continuing existence of humanity. You should really try to reduce dependencies. Have a look into passive computing and selling to higher animals, maybe?

faintrain 7y ago
The same people complaining fail to advocate for change. You don’t like Etsy policies go elsewhere. This is not rocket science. You don’t like the fact that big companies abuse consumers, small businesses, and their employees, you can vote or collectively organize for change. The HN community rails against unionization and collective bargaining often but loves to complain when a policy change like this occurs. Make it make sense.
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  While you're not wrong on a meta level, complaining about policy changes like this sometimes balloons into massive PR hits, which can in turn lead to reversals. So it's not entirely true that complaining is doing nothing. > You don't like Etsy policies go elsewhere. But "if you don't like [company X's] policies go elsewhere" isn't always viable from a business standpoint, right? I don't know how close Etsy gets to monopoly in their niches, but there's probably a measurable advantage to being there -- customers who, when they're thinking of buying some (theoretically) handmade arts and crafts-ish knickknack, go straight to Etsy and browse specific categories and keywords.
mc3 7y ago
It's about risk assessment. No electricity / no internet means you have bigger problems. 435 npm modules is risky - so that needs to be managed but that's not necessarily meaning ditch NPM. And for Etsy - well the usual play with these sorts of things is you use them for marketing then get the customer after they make a purchase to start using your real shop running on your own domain.

faintrain 7y ago

The same people complaining fail to advocate for change. You don’t like Etsy policies go elsewhere. This is not rocket science. You don’t like the fact that big companies abuse consumers, small businesses, and their employees, you can vote or collectively organize for change. The HN community rails against unionization and collective bargaining often but loves to complain when a policy change like this occurs. Make it make sense.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago
While you're not wrong on a meta level, complaining about policy changes like this sometimes balloons into massive PR hits, which can in turn lead to reversals. So it's not entirely true that complaining is doing nothing. > You don't like Etsy policies go elsewhere. But "if you don't like [company X's] policies go elsewhere" isn't always viable from a business standpoint, right? I don't know how close Etsy gets to monopoly in their niches, but there's probably a measurable advantage to being there -- customers who, when they're thinking of buying some (theoretically) handmade arts and crafts-ish knickknack, go straight to Etsy and browse specific categories and keywords.

mc3 7y ago

It's about risk assessment. No electricity / no internet means you have bigger problems. 435 npm modules is risky - so that needs to be managed but that's not necessarily meaning ditch NPM. And for Etsy - well the usual play with these sorts of things is you use them for marketing then get the customer after they make a purchase to start using your real shop running on your own domain.