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It’s going to take more than a couple weeks for this to take its course.

01100011 7y ago
Right, but I can make the decision then on whether to return to work. As I said in another thread, I know I'll probably get it eventually and be fine, but I don't want it when the first wave hits and the health care system is jammed. Better for everyone if we WFH if possible.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  Are you stocked up for six months? If everyone works from home, Amazon, Uber Eats and Wholesale ain't delivering.
  - 01100011 7y ago
    Everyone can't WFH. But if you can, you probably should.
  - ClumsyPilot 7y ago
    Stocking up for months is entirely realistic. Canned beans, pasteurized milk, etc.
    - Johnny555 7y ago
      Feasible, but realistic for most people? A can of beans has around 350 calories, a pound of uncooked rice has 1700 calories Assuming you want to avoid losing weight, you'll want around 2000 calories/day. So you'll need 180 cans of beans and 180 lbs of rice. A 5 gallon bucket of rice weighs around 40 lbs so that's 5 5 gallon buckets. And you'll want more than rice and beans, so you'd want to store more than that. I don't think many people realistically have the space, money, or inclination to store that much food, especially families.
      - Fjolsvith 7y ago
        20 lbs of Rice at Walmart is about $9.00. 2 lbs of Black Beans is $2.22. (figure it to make 4 cans worth). So about $190 gets that. I'd throw in a bunch of Ramen Noodles (pro bachelor tip).
        Fjolsvith 7y ago
        But my favorite is the Shore Lunch Soup Mixes: https://www.menards.com/main/c-1528988295732.htm?searchTermToCategory=Shore%20Lunch&searchString=Shore%20Lunch&tid=-1 https://www.menards.com/main/c-1528988295732.htm?searchTermT... Lots of variety, cheap, easy to fix meal for 5-6 people.
        Johnny555 7y ago
        Great, so you can feed your family of 4 for $800 - where are you going to store that all in your apartment? I didn't say it's impossible, but not realistic to expect all or even most Americans to stockpile that much food... especially when the government insists everything is under control.
        Fjolsvith 7y ago
        > where are you going to store that all in your apartment? Right by the ammo locker.
      - ClumsyPilot 7y ago
        Firstly, I have a modestly sized apartment, and even for me storing ~100 kg of rice would not be particularly difficult. Its quite compact if you get stackable plastic containers - I just used those to pack a few hundred liters of clothes. Secondly, the idea is not to survive apocalypse - even having a week's supply will enable you to weather the worst of it, and give you confidence. I think it's an investment well worth it.
        Johnny555 7y ago
        But it's not just "100 kg" of rice - it's 100kg of rice and 100kg of beans (or other foods). That's going to seriously eat into your closet space. I'm not the one that recommended storing 6 months of food, I was replying to that post saying it's unrealistic. I keep 2-3 weeks of food (and 1 week of water) stashed away for an emergency.
- incompatible 7y ago
  Maybe it would be better to get it early before the health care system is jammed?
  - 01100011 7y ago
    Assuming getting the virus conveys immunity, yes, although you'd be hard pressed to catch it intentionally at this point.
- jamesrcole 7y ago
  > I know I'll probably get it eventually and be fine unfortunately, you don't know you'll be fine or even probably fine (which applies for everyone else, too), and it's unhelpful to be propagating such misinformation.
  - mdutton 7y ago
    "probably fine" with 95% confidence actually fits the data
    - jamesrcole 7y ago
      You are making a flawed assumption that we have good enough data from which to conclude such definitive statements. It is obvious that we still have a lot to learn about how bad it is actually going to be, and it is obvious that a lot of the figures we've received so far are untrustworthy.
    - firethief 7y ago
      How confident are you in your confidence interval? UC Davis's coverage of this case is less optimistic: > approximately 80 percent do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization [ https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-c... ]
- Johnny555 7y ago
  You seem to be assuming that once you get it you'll be immune. But there's some evidence that patients can be reinfected and the subsequent infection is worse.
  - 01100011 7y ago
    Definitely not assuming that. I don't think I implied it either.
    - Johnny555 7y ago
      Yeah sorry, mis-click, meant to reply to the post below that said maybe catching it early is better.
Fjolsvith 7y ago
Might be better in the long run to just develop some immunity to it.
- jhayward 7y ago
  No, it would be better to postpone getting it as long as possible. The technology/industry learning curve is just beginning for this virus, so later products will be better than current ones. Barring total societal collapse, that is.

Right, but I can make the decision then on whether to return to work. As I said in another thread, I know I'll probably get it eventually and be fine, but I don't want it when the first wave hits and the health care system is jammed. Better for everyone if we WFH if possible.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
Are you stocked up for six months? If everyone works from home, Amazon, Uber Eats and Wholesale ain't delivering.
- 01100011 7y ago
  Everyone can't WFH. But if you can, you probably should.
- ClumsyPilot 7y ago
  Stocking up for months is entirely realistic. Canned beans, pasteurized milk, etc.
  - Johnny555 7y ago
    Feasible, but realistic for most people? A can of beans has around 350 calories, a pound of uncooked rice has 1700 calories Assuming you want to avoid losing weight, you'll want around 2000 calories/day. So you'll need 180 cans of beans and 180 lbs of rice. A 5 gallon bucket of rice weighs around 40 lbs so that's 5 5 gallon buckets. And you'll want more than rice and beans, so you'd want to store more than that. I don't think many people realistically have the space, money, or inclination to store that much food, especially families.
    - Fjolsvith 7y ago
      20 lbs of Rice at Walmart is about $9.00. 2 lbs of Black Beans is $2.22. (figure it to make 4 cans worth). So about $190 gets that. I'd throw in a bunch of Ramen Noodles (pro bachelor tip).
      - Fjolsvith 7y ago
        But my favorite is the Shore Lunch Soup Mixes: https://www.menards.com/main/c-1528988295732.htm?searchTermToCategory=Shore%20Lunch&searchString=Shore%20Lunch&tid=-1 https://www.menards.com/main/c-1528988295732.htm?searchTermT... Lots of variety, cheap, easy to fix meal for 5-6 people.
      - Johnny555 7y ago
        Great, so you can feed your family of 4 for $800 - where are you going to store that all in your apartment? I didn't say it's impossible, but not realistic to expect all or even most Americans to stockpile that much food... especially when the government insists everything is under control.
        Fjolsvith 7y ago
        > where are you going to store that all in your apartment? Right by the ammo locker.
    - ClumsyPilot 7y ago
      Firstly, I have a modestly sized apartment, and even for me storing ~100 kg of rice would not be particularly difficult. Its quite compact if you get stackable plastic containers - I just used those to pack a few hundred liters of clothes. Secondly, the idea is not to survive apocalypse - even having a week's supply will enable you to weather the worst of it, and give you confidence. I think it's an investment well worth it.
      - Johnny555 7y ago
        But it's not just "100 kg" of rice - it's 100kg of rice and 100kg of beans (or other foods). That's going to seriously eat into your closet space. I'm not the one that recommended storing 6 months of food, I was replying to that post saying it's unrealistic. I keep 2-3 weeks of food (and 1 week of water) stashed away for an emergency.
incompatible 7y ago
Maybe it would be better to get it early before the health care system is jammed?
- 01100011 7y ago
  Assuming getting the virus conveys immunity, yes, although you'd be hard pressed to catch it intentionally at this point.
jamesrcole 7y ago
> I know I'll probably get it eventually and be fine unfortunately, you don't know you'll be fine or even probably fine (which applies for everyone else, too), and it's unhelpful to be propagating such misinformation.
- mdutton 7y ago
  "probably fine" with 95% confidence actually fits the data
  - jamesrcole 7y ago
    You are making a flawed assumption that we have good enough data from which to conclude such definitive statements. It is obvious that we still have a lot to learn about how bad it is actually going to be, and it is obvious that a lot of the figures we've received so far are untrustworthy.
  - firethief 7y ago
    How confident are you in your confidence interval? UC Davis's coverage of this case is less optimistic: > approximately 80 percent do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization [ https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-c... ]
Johnny555 7y ago
You seem to be assuming that once you get it you'll be immune. But there's some evidence that patients can be reinfected and the subsequent infection is worse.
- 01100011 7y ago
  Definitely not assuming that. I don't think I implied it either.
  - Johnny555 7y ago
    Yeah sorry, mis-click, meant to reply to the post below that said maybe catching it early is better.

Fjolsvith 7y ago

Might be better in the long run to just develop some immunity to it.

jhayward 7y ago
No, it would be better to postpone getting it as long as possible. The technology/industry learning curve is just beginning for this virus, so later products will be better than current ones. Barring total societal collapse, that is.