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From the rules: [...] Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usuall

by DenisM 7y ago

From the rules: [...] Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. [...] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Quekid5 7y ago
That's fair... but how exactly are we to call out these abuses otherwise? (Without having a trivially traceable e-mail address.) Maybe it's an idea for a new "button" other than spam/flag/etc.. FWIW, I think I backed up my accusation adequately for at least a mod review. EDIT: To be even more meta... I sense a certain pattern in your comments, sir. What gives? EDIT#2: Love your retaliation by downvoting totally unrelated comments, btw. Wtf?
- DenisM 7y ago
  The rules I have previously posted contain the answer to your first question.
  - Quekid5 7y ago
    EDIT: Please don't be opaque about this stuff. Post an exact link to the ToC (or whatever) I violated if you truly want to be held accountable. I'm not even on a I-want-to-an-a-hole crusade here[0], but HN has a serious lack of accountability and transparency about this. I contend that it's full of shills, but I have yet to prove that, which I acknowledge. Anyway, I flagged it. I'd delete my post if I could. Wait, I actually still could. That still doesn't account for the downvotes I just received on random comments unrelated to this topic. If I deleted it would that delete causally-related-downvotes? [0] As you can hopefully tell from from my comment history. EDIT#2: Can I "report" you... and if so, how? I'm not going to, but could I, theoretically? That's a good test for accountability.
    - dang 7y ago
      Insinuations of astroturfing or shillage are the commonest toxic internet trope around, and we don't allow them here without evidence. People feeling differently about C++ doesn't count as evidence of anything other than that programmers feel differently and identify with different things. I've posted hundreds of times about this, so I don't think it's true that HN has a lack of accountability and transparency about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... Could you please review and respect the rules here? You've broken quite a few of them in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by DenisM 7y ago

Quekid5 7y ago

That's fair... but how exactly are we to call out these abuses otherwise? (Without having a trivially traceable e-mail address.) Maybe it's an idea for a new "button" other than spam/flag/etc.. FWIW, I think I backed up my accusation adequately for at least a mod review. EDIT: To be even more meta... I sense a certain pattern in your comments, sir. What gives? EDIT#2: Love your retaliation by downvoting totally unrelated comments, btw. Wtf?

DenisM 7y ago
The rules I have previously posted contain the answer to your first question.
- Quekid5 7y ago
  EDIT: Please don't be opaque about this stuff. Post an exact link to the ToC (or whatever) I violated if you truly want to be held accountable. I'm not even on a I-want-to-an-a-hole crusade here[0], but HN has a serious lack of accountability and transparency about this. I contend that it's full of shills, but I have yet to prove that, which I acknowledge. Anyway, I flagged it. I'd delete my post if I could. Wait, I actually still could. That still doesn't account for the downvotes I just received on random comments unrelated to this topic. If I deleted it would that delete causally-related-downvotes? [0] As you can hopefully tell from from my comment history. EDIT#2: Can I "report" you... and if so, how? I'm not going to, but could I, theoretically? That's a good test for accountability.
  - dang 7y ago
    Insinuations of astroturfing or shillage are the commonest toxic internet trope around, and we don't allow them here without evidence. People feeling differently about C++ doesn't count as evidence of anything other than that programmers feel differently and identify with different things. I've posted hundreds of times about this, so I don't think it's true that HN has a lack of accountability and transparency about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... Could you please review and respect the rules here? You've broken quite a few of them in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html