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I certainly agree that Modern C++ is vastly bett... actually this is just someone posting an old polemic and trying to stir resentment/controversy. IGNORE THIS

I certainly agree that Modern C++ is vastly bett... actually this is just someone posting an old polemic and trying to stir resentment/controversy. IGNORE THIS CRITICSM OF C++... there are much better and more relevant ones which are worth taking seriously. This is not worth taking seriously. (I wonder how many of these posters are real or fake. Given the karma and post of this poster I'm inclined to... wait. Last comment was in 2017. Yet... hasn't too many posts since that, I think it's about 4. Probably a bit out of the loop, buy maybe not malicious.)

DenisM 7y ago
From the rules: [...] Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. [...] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Quekid5 7y ago
  That's fair... but how exactly are we to call out these abuses otherwise? (Without having a trivially traceable e-mail address.) Maybe it's an idea for a new "button" other than spam/flag/etc.. FWIW, I think I backed up my accusation adequately for at least a mod review. EDIT: To be even more meta... I sense a certain pattern in your comments, sir. What gives? EDIT#2: Love your retaliation by downvoting totally unrelated comments, btw. Wtf?
  - DenisM 7y ago
    The rules I have previously posted contain the answer to your first question.
    - Quekid5 7y ago
      EDIT: Please don't be opaque about this stuff. Post an exact link to the ToC (or whatever) I violated if you truly want to be held accountable. I'm not even on a I-want-to-an-a-hole crusade here[0], but HN has a serious lack of accountability and transparency about this. I contend that it's full of shills, but I have yet to prove that, which I acknowledge. Anyway, I flagged it. I'd delete my post if I could. Wait, I actually still could. That still doesn't account for the downvotes I just received on random comments unrelated to this topic. If I deleted it would that delete causally-related-downvotes? [0] As you can hopefully tell from from my comment history. EDIT#2: Can I "report" you... and if so, how? I'm not going to, but could I, theoretically? That's a good test for accountability.
      - dang 7y ago
        Insinuations of astroturfing or shillage are the commonest toxic internet trope around, and we don't allow them here without evidence. People feeling differently about C++ doesn't count as evidence of anything other than that programmers feel differently and identify with different things. I've posted hundreds of times about this, so I don't think it's true that HN has a lack of accountability and transparency about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... Could you please review and respect the rules here? You've broken quite a few of them in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 7y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22428525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22428525. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22429925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22429925 below.

DenisM 7y ago

From the rules: [...] Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. [...] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Quekid5 7y ago
That's fair... but how exactly are we to call out these abuses otherwise? (Without having a trivially traceable e-mail address.) Maybe it's an idea for a new "button" other than spam/flag/etc.. FWIW, I think I backed up my accusation adequately for at least a mod review. EDIT: To be even more meta... I sense a certain pattern in your comments, sir. What gives? EDIT#2: Love your retaliation by downvoting totally unrelated comments, btw. Wtf?
- DenisM 7y ago
  The rules I have previously posted contain the answer to your first question.
  - Quekid5 7y ago
    EDIT: Please don't be opaque about this stuff. Post an exact link to the ToC (or whatever) I violated if you truly want to be held accountable. I'm not even on a I-want-to-an-a-hole crusade here[0], but HN has a serious lack of accountability and transparency about this. I contend that it's full of shills, but I have yet to prove that, which I acknowledge. Anyway, I flagged it. I'd delete my post if I could. Wait, I actually still could. That still doesn't account for the downvotes I just received on random comments unrelated to this topic. If I deleted it would that delete causally-related-downvotes? [0] As you can hopefully tell from from my comment history. EDIT#2: Can I "report" you... and if so, how? I'm not going to, but could I, theoretically? That's a good test for accountability.
    - dang 7y ago
      Insinuations of astroturfing or shillage are the commonest toxic internet trope around, and we don't allow them here without evidence. People feeling differently about C++ doesn't count as evidence of anything other than that programmers feel differently and identify with different things. I've posted hundreds of times about this, so I don't think it's true that HN has a lack of accountability and transparency about it. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... Could you please review and respect the rules here? You've broken quite a few of them in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 7y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22428525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22428525. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22429925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22429925 below.