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Masks don't help because of low quality and people lack proper training... you shouldn't touch the mask, you shouldn't reuse it, you should properly dispose it,

Masks don't help because of low quality and people lack proper training... you shouldn't touch the mask, you shouldn't reuse it, you should properly dispose it, etc. A saner advice is to wash your hands frequently and to avoid touching your face when in public. Because you can get this virus by touching infected surfaces and then touching your face. It doesn't seem to be an airborn virus, but it does survive on surfaces. I cary a hand sanitizer for those moments in public when I feel the need to scratch my face :-)

joering2 7y ago
Masks do help and you explained why. Its harder to touch your face, nose, lips when wearing a mask. So it does help fight the spread and getting yourself sick easier.
- aerojoe23 7y ago
  Could you try that again? More smaller sentences please.
jakkals 7y ago
> It doesn't seem to be an airborn virus, but it does survive on surfaces. I just read this last night, and from this I had the impression that it is an airborne virus, and that surface spreading is not the main vector: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission...
- xboxnolifes 7y ago
  The "airborne" transmission in that link is what I believe is called "aerosol transmission", not airborne. Because it relies on liquid droplets in the air, and not actually able to transmit on something like dist in the air.
  - jakkals 7y ago
    There is also transmission (actually the first one mentioned) "Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)"--this does not mention liquid droplets at all, which is why I figured it to be airborne.
    - RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 7y ago
      That's because many people are disgusting and don't give a fuck about proper hygiene. Just among my acquaintances I need both hands an a foot to count the number that don't even vaguely cover their mouth / nose -- let alone _properly_ cover -- while coughing or sneezing. No amount of gentle reminder -> passive aggressive suggestion -> explicit suggestion had lasting effects on their behavior. All I could do is be vigilant and recluse myself from their company whenever one's clearly showing symptoms.
      - theduder99 7y ago
        Yep, most middle east and eastern cultures have very low hygiene standards.
      - mercer 7y ago
        The number of people I've seen 'properly' covering their mouth when they sneezed, with their hand instead of, say, elbow sleeve, and then touching all the things, is worrying.
  - eveningcoffee 7y ago
    Wearing simple masks and glasses (!!!) would then protect against this vector.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    Thank you for correcting that. Big difference between the two and people will happily play 'Chinese whispers' with these bits of information leading to a totally different overall picture. Airborne transmission doesn't require any other medium than the air itself, even dust is optional.
veemjeem 7y ago
is it possible to reuse a mask if you put the mask through an autoclave?
- JshWright 7y ago
  An N95 isn't going to survive an autoclave...
  - veemjeem 7y ago
    I think my P100 filters might survive an autoclave. They are the pink disc kind from 3M. Pressure cooking only goes up to 121C @ 15psi, so it isn't as hot as it may seem.
    - JshWright 7y ago
      It's not just the pressure and the temperature, it's also the steam. Autoclaves are are pretty nasty environments, and I wouldn't trust a filter that had gone through one. It's very likely the filter medium would have been degraded.
- drcode 7y ago
  You might be able to use UV-C light sterilization. Strangely, these types of lights are all suddenly sold out on amazon, wonder why... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1PHS9P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1PHS9P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...
  - pmoriarty 7y ago
    Remember that light can only sterilize the surfaces it contacts. It can not sterilize beneath the surface. So if droplets containing viruses penetrate beneath the surface of the mask, sterilization with light will not be able to reach them.
    - drcode 7y ago
RaceWon 7y ago
> A saner advice is to wash your hands frequently and to avoid touching your face when in public I wouldn't use a urinal either (I never do anyway, as a former licensed plumber, thosef'n things are NASTY imo). I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think. I work in hospital
- u801e 7y ago
  > I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think. Flushing toilets leads to aerosolized water droplets from the toilet spreading around the room and contaminating nearby surfaces[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume
  - RaceWon 7y ago
    I know, but so does peeing into it. At least when you flush it's re-diluted.

joering2 7y ago

Masks do help and you explained why. Its harder to touch your face, nose, lips when wearing a mask. So it does help fight the spread and getting yourself sick easier.

aerojoe23 7y ago
Could you try that again? More smaller sentences please.

jakkals 7y ago

> It doesn't seem to be an airborn virus, but it does survive on surfaces. I just read this last night, and from this I had the impression that it is an airborne virus, and that surface spreading is not the main vector: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission...

xboxnolifes 7y ago
The "airborne" transmission in that link is what I believe is called "aerosol transmission", not airborne. Because it relies on liquid droplets in the air, and not actually able to transmit on something like dist in the air.
- jakkals 7y ago
  There is also transmission (actually the first one mentioned) "Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)"--this does not mention liquid droplets at all, which is why I figured it to be airborne.
  - RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 7y ago
    That's because many people are disgusting and don't give a fuck about proper hygiene. Just among my acquaintances I need both hands an a foot to count the number that don't even vaguely cover their mouth / nose -- let alone _properly_ cover -- while coughing or sneezing. No amount of gentle reminder -> passive aggressive suggestion -> explicit suggestion had lasting effects on their behavior. All I could do is be vigilant and recluse myself from their company whenever one's clearly showing symptoms.
    - theduder99 7y ago
      Yep, most middle east and eastern cultures have very low hygiene standards.
    - mercer 7y ago
      The number of people I've seen 'properly' covering their mouth when they sneezed, with their hand instead of, say, elbow sleeve, and then touching all the things, is worrying.
- eveningcoffee 7y ago
  Wearing simple masks and glasses (!!!) would then protect against this vector.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  Thank you for correcting that. Big difference between the two and people will happily play 'Chinese whispers' with these bits of information leading to a totally different overall picture. Airborne transmission doesn't require any other medium than the air itself, even dust is optional.

veemjeem 7y ago

is it possible to reuse a mask if you put the mask through an autoclave?

JshWright 7y ago
An N95 isn't going to survive an autoclave...
- veemjeem 7y ago
  I think my P100 filters might survive an autoclave. They are the pink disc kind from 3M. Pressure cooking only goes up to 121C @ 15psi, so it isn't as hot as it may seem.
  - JshWright 7y ago
    It's not just the pressure and the temperature, it's also the steam. Autoclaves are are pretty nasty environments, and I wouldn't trust a filter that had gone through one. It's very likely the filter medium would have been degraded.
drcode 7y ago
You might be able to use UV-C light sterilization. Strangely, these types of lights are all suddenly sold out on amazon, wonder why... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1PHS9P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1PHS9P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...
- pmoriarty 7y ago
  Remember that light can only sterilize the surfaces it contacts. It can not sterilize beneath the surface. So if droplets containing viruses penetrate beneath the surface of the mask, sterilization with light will not be able to reach them.
  - drcode 7y ago

RaceWon 7y ago

> A saner advice is to wash your hands frequently and to avoid touching your face when in public I wouldn't use a urinal either (I never do anyway, as a former licensed plumber, thosef'n things are NASTY imo). I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think. I work in hospital

u801e 7y ago
> I also flush twice with my back turned before using a public toilet.. not ideal but better than not I think. Flushing toilets leads to aerosolized water droplets from the toilet spreading around the room and contaminating nearby surfaces[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume
- RaceWon 7y ago
  I know, but so does peeing into it. At least when you flush it's re-diluted.