I think ultimately the problem is HN is a source of traffic, that's why people tailor content for this audience, it's why the spammers are putting all those [de

I think ultimately the problem is HN is a source of traffic, that's why people tailor content for this audience, it's why the spammers are putting all those [dead] links in the new section etc. Maybe it would help if you had to click through to the comment page to get to the external url - nobody's going to work hard to get a hundred visitors + the comments are often more interesting than the content.