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Isn’t the tech lash for the complete opposite reasons? The fact that too many people have too much of our data? Why would people (outside of effective propagand

Isn’t the tech lash for the complete opposite reasons? The fact that too many people have too much of our data? Why would people (outside of effective propaganda, which would be true even without the tech lash) support something that makes their problems worse?

alistairSH 7y ago
Huge portions of the population (Congress included) are technically illiterate. They don't know any better.
strbean 7y ago
It's almost like people think their personal data is zero-sum - if we give it to the government then companies won't have it! Just like if you download a car, someone else loses that car. Makes me think of the Israeli voter rolls hack[1]. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/tech/israel-voters-data-exposed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/tech/israel-voters-data-expos...
riazrizvi 7y ago
Exactly. But for the people that want that data, for the people who will pay for it, FUD is a great political tool, and this issue is too subtle for most people to get. I've tried to explain to my family, how the abdication of private behavior logs to some companies is creating economic/political inequality that may forever destroy norms of fairness & competitiveness that we enjoy, but they just don't get it... For example, a friend worked at a proprietary hedge fund of a major US bank that was looking into the private accounts of their customers to drive trading decisions. Other investors can't compete against that, stock market investment is no longer fair. And you've broken a fundamental component of the economy, a fair & transparent investment system.
summerlight 7y ago
In fact, user data usage and share is a multi-faceted issue. The most obvious stances are (but not limited to): * Pro-privacy claims that big techs share their user data to too many irrelevant entities. * Pro-competition claims that big techs monopolize uses of their user data. * Pro-regulation claims that big techs don't share their user data to accountable government entities. Each of those arguments has some valid points but also conflicts to each other in a some degree.

alistairSH 7y ago

Huge portions of the population (Congress included) are technically illiterate. They don't know any better.

strbean 7y ago

It's almost like people think their personal data is zero-sum - if we give it to the government then companies won't have it! Just like if you download a car, someone else loses that car. Makes me think of the Israeli voter rolls hack[1]. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/tech/israel-voters-data-exposed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/tech/israel-voters-data-expos...

riazrizvi 7y ago

Exactly. But for the people that want that data, for the people who will pay for it, FUD is a great political tool, and this issue is too subtle for most people to get. I've tried to explain to my family, how the abdication of private behavior logs to some companies is creating economic/political inequality that may forever destroy norms of fairness & competitiveness that we enjoy, but they just don't get it... For example, a friend worked at a proprietary hedge fund of a major US bank that was looking into the private accounts of their customers to drive trading decisions. Other investors can't compete against that, stock market investment is no longer fair. And you've broken a fundamental component of the economy, a fair & transparent investment system.

summerlight 7y ago

In fact, user data usage and share is a multi-faceted issue. The most obvious stances are (but not limited to): * Pro-privacy claims that big techs share their user data to too many irrelevant entities. * Pro-competition claims that big techs monopolize uses of their user data. * Pro-regulation claims that big techs don't share their user data to accountable government entities. Each of those arguments has some valid points but also conflicts to each other in a some degree.