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I would prefer no karma for story submissions.

by bradly 16y ago

tptacek 16y ago
If you look at the people who submit off-topic stories and the people who drag comment threads down, (a) is there overlap, and (b) is there enough concentration among the submitters so that depriving them of an occassional bucket of karma points would matter? Remember, all the threads that germinate from these stories tend to generate more karma in the aggregate than the submission itself.
- bradly 16y ago
  Preface: I don't know if this actually happens or not, but... My guess is that people submit stories from certain sources, no matter what the content is, to try and be the first submissions and get the karma. If ~15 people do this, the submission is going to rise rapidly, not because of it's content, but because of people trying to cash in on a well-known name. For instance, I think an Arrington article is going to get a lot of votes right away because of people trying to be the first submission, not because of the content article. If there was no karma associated with submissions, people wouldn't race to get these types of articles submitted. Again, just a guess.
  - silentbicycle 16y ago
    > My guess is that people submit stories from certain sources, no matter what the content is, to try and be the first submissions and get the karma. Looking at the submission history for some users easily confirms this. Along with other adjustments to incentives for submitting content, some sort of check for whether most of the user's submissions come from the same domain name could potentially be useful - especially for domain names with the top X% of all submissions site-wide (e.g. techcrunch).
silentbicycle 16y ago
Whether eliminating submission karma or just tuning it, that's not a bad idea - that could get rid of the incentive to be the first to post techcrunch etc. stuff that may be voted up. So much good stuff spills off the front page just because it didn't get several votes within the first half hour (and/or wasn't submitted at prime time for EST or PST readers).

I would prefer no karma for story submissions.

by bradly 16y ago

I would prefer no karma for story submissions.

If you look at the people who submit off-topic stories and the people who drag comment threads down, (a) is there overlap, and (b) is there enough concentration among the submitters so that depriving them of an occassional bucket of karma points would matter? Remember, all the threads that germinate from these stories tend to generate more karma in the aggregate than the submission itself.

bradly 16y ago
Preface: I don't know if this actually happens or not, but... My guess is that people submit stories from certain sources, no matter what the content is, to try and be the first submissions and get the karma. If ~15 people do this, the submission is going to rise rapidly, not because of it's content, but because of people trying to cash in on a well-known name. For instance, I think an Arrington article is going to get a lot of votes right away because of people trying to be the first submission, not because of the content article. If there was no karma associated with submissions, people wouldn't race to get these types of articles submitted. Again, just a guess.
- silentbicycle 16y ago
  > My guess is that people submit stories from certain sources, no matter what the content is, to try and be the first submissions and get the karma. Looking at the submission history for some users easily confirms this. Along with other adjustments to incentives for submitting content, some sort of check for whether most of the user's submissions come from the same domain name could potentially be useful - especially for domain names with the top X% of all submissions site-wide (e.g. techcrunch).

silentbicycle 16y ago

Whether eliminating submission karma or just tuning it, that's not a bad idea - that could get rid of the incentive to be the first to post techcrunch etc. stuff that may be voted up. So much good stuff spills off the front page just because it didn't get several votes within the first half hour (and/or wasn't submitted at prime time for EST or PST readers).