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To your ear you mean? Yes, both dialects are non-rhotic. I mean the third orthographically.

• thaumasiotes 7y ago
  No, I meant to my eye; I don't speak RP. But what training I have says to analyze e.g. "parker" as CVCV, p-ar-k-er. I don't see more difficulty in saying "ar" is the first vowel in "parker" than in saying "th" is the second consonant in "wither"...
  • foldr 7y ago
    Orthographically speaking, 'p' is the first consonant, 'r' is the second consonant, and 'k' is the third consonant. Phonetically speaking, 'k' is the second consonant.
    • thaumasiotes 7y ago
      Yes, I understand what you're saying. I am curious, though, how you would personally describe orthographic consonant clusters such as "th" and "sh", and how, in your experience, other people usually refer to them.
      • kd5bjo 7y ago
        In my experience, the unqualified terms “consonant” and “vowel” unambiguously refer to individual letters, and the terms “consonant sound” and “vowel sound” are used to refer to the noises produced when speaking. Thus, most people I know would refer to both “th” and “sh” as two consonants. This is coming from a general US education with no focus on linguistics, and feels like the sort of thing that may have significant regional variances.