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Fractional distillation instead of evaporative cooling. The upper layers can be "invitation-only affairs overseen by a respected and benevolent dictation". It

by 6ren 16y ago

Fractional distillation instead of evaporative cooling. The upper layers can be "invitation-only affairs overseen by a respected and benevolent dictation". It also doesn't need to be linear, but could be a tree (i.e. each level could have many immediate higher levels, so there's competition). I think there's something in this, mirroring the hierarchy in which human communities naturally organize themselves (karma/seniority works that way a bit here), but the more I think about this, the more complicated it seems. Maybe someone will extract the essence of it.

psykotic 16y ago
Communities that are so large they require webs of trust to be managed hardly deserve to be called communities. No matter what you call them, they don't offer what I'm looking for.
- 6ren 16y ago
  er, how is what I described a "web of trust"?
  - psykotic 16y ago
    We can call it a tree of delegation if you like. It sounds reminiscent of how Linux development is managed. At least to me this suggests a scale that's distinctly beyond a community.
    - 6ren 16y ago
      The tree is just me getting carried away with elaboration. The basic idea is you have one community higher than the first one. The lower one can be completely open; the higher one can be invite-only. (Oh, there's that essence I wanted.) Maybe the two levels are a little like a freemium model, where the analogue of free vs. paid is anyone vs. invite-only. One is a recruitment centre for the other. Perhaps the same submissions and comments would be presented to both but rated by their own communities; or perhaps it would be like subreddits, totally distinct in their stories and discussions. The difference from subreddits is it's not flat and not all-welcome, but hierarchical (in both a logical and political sense). Maybe SO does this a little with karma-based privileges, but there isn't a higher-level forum (at least, not one that I'm aware of...)
stcredzero 16y ago
Fractional distillation instead of evaporative cooling. The upper layers can be "invitation-only affairs overseen by a respected and benevolent dictation". I think a system of such levels would be very useful for creating new connections. It's similar to what happens when leaders from one country meet leaders from another country, or when leading researchers in one field meet leading researchers from another. It also doesn't need to be linear, but could be a tree...but the more I think about this, the more complicated it seems. Maybe someone will extract the essence of it. If you can take the "friend" graph and identify leaders and place them at the root of various trees, then you could use the distance from such roots to determine the general "level" of any given node. Then, all you'd need to do is to somehow lubricate communication between users of generally the same level. You could do this right now on a site like Stack Overflow with private IRC rooms or forums for Stack Overflow users, with access restricted by Karma. (Already been done?)

by 6ren 16y ago

psykotic 16y ago

Communities that are so large they require webs of trust to be managed hardly deserve to be called communities. No matter what you call them, they don't offer what I'm looking for.

6ren 16y ago
er, how is what I described a "web of trust"?
- psykotic 16y ago
  We can call it a tree of delegation if you like. It sounds reminiscent of how Linux development is managed. At least to me this suggests a scale that's distinctly beyond a community.
  - 6ren 16y ago
    The tree is just me getting carried away with elaboration. The basic idea is you have one community higher than the first one. The lower one can be completely open; the higher one can be invite-only. (Oh, there's that essence I wanted.) Maybe the two levels are a little like a freemium model, where the analogue of free vs. paid is anyone vs. invite-only. One is a recruitment centre for the other. Perhaps the same submissions and comments would be presented to both but rated by their own communities; or perhaps it would be like subreddits, totally distinct in their stories and discussions. The difference from subreddits is it's not flat and not all-welcome, but hierarchical (in both a logical and political sense). Maybe SO does this a little with karma-based privileges, but there isn't a higher-level forum (at least, not one that I'm aware of...)

stcredzero 16y ago

Fractional distillation instead of evaporative cooling. The upper layers can be "invitation-only affairs overseen by a respected and benevolent dictation". I think a system of such levels would be very useful for creating new connections. It's similar to what happens when leaders from one country meet leaders from another country, or when leading researchers in one field meet leading researchers from another. It also doesn't need to be linear, but could be a tree...but the more I think about this, the more complicated it seems. Maybe someone will extract the essence of it. If you can take the "friend" graph and identify leaders and place them at the root of various trees, then you could use the distance from such roots to determine the general "level" of any given node. Then, all you'd need to do is to somehow lubricate communication between users of generally the same level. You could do this right now on a site like Stack Overflow with private IRC rooms or forums for Stack Overflow users, with access restricted by Karma. (Already been done?)