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What exactly could individuals do to stop fossil fuel subsidies? Petitions or writing to politicians doesn't work. FYI https://www.iisd.org/gsi/ https://www.ii

What exactly could individuals do to stop fossil fuel subsidies? Petitions or writing to politicians doesn't work. FYI https://www.iisd.org/gsi/ https://www.iisd.org/gsi/ https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=e1210 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=e1210

zulgan 7y ago
rebel.
- SuoDuanDao 7y ago
  Civil wars cost a lot of fossil fuels to wage. At least wait for the cybertruck to come out ;)
  - perfunctory 7y ago
    rebellion != civil war
    - hutzlibu 7y ago
      In theory.
    - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
      Given that the yellow vests started rioting over a pretty modest increase in fuel taxes, I don't think popular support for dealing with climate change has nearly the level of popular support our respective circles of friends would have us believe. My own sense is that the typical world leader would love to save their beachfront properties, but lacks the skills to sell the necessary sacrifices when competing with aspiring democratic leaders. Environmentalism needs a populist of its own. Ms. Thunberg did her best, but this really calls for a Lincoln more than a D'ark.
      - perfunctory 7y ago
        > Given that the yellow vests started rioting over a pretty modest increase in fuel taxes This is not the full story. To balance the fuel tax increase, the wealth tax for the rich was eliminated. Who knows what would have happened if it wasn't the case.
      - tomp 7y ago
        That’s why all “social good” “incentive” taxes should be revenue-neutral (paying all taxes collected back to citizens as universal income). I have absolutely zero trust in governments to spend any such tax sensibly otherwise, and I’m probably not alone.
  - fakeNewsIsHere 7y ago
    Elons reputation is so tarnished in my mind. All of his industries rely on taking tax money. Billionaires being billionaires...
adrianN 7y ago
Vote and convince others to vote. Join the citizen's climate lobby.
maliker 7y ago
Become Jeff Bezos and put $10 billion [1] towards lobbying... Last Christmas I was looking for a good climate charity to donate to. I was disappointed to find that GiveWell [2], which does great reviews of charity effectiveness, found a lot effective charities in public health and one in poverty reduction, but nothing in the area of climate. It's very frustrating. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/technology/jeff-bezos-climate-change-earth-fund.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/technology/jeff-bezos-cli... [2] https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities
- lkbm 7y ago
  Giving What We Can has a section on climate charities[0]. One listed is Cool Earth, which I thought Givewell had recommended in the past, but I'm not seeing it in any of their archived recommendations. (It's also worth noting that addressing global poverty is a pro-climate activity, in addition to be a moral imperative. Its climate-effects may be more long-term than is relevant, though.) [0] https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/research/other-causes/climate-change/ https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/research/other-causes/climat...
- foolinaround 7y ago
  the best bang for the buck will come when one donates to causes that improve literacy and wholesale lifestyle improvements (both children as well as adults) They will not see immediate results, but the change in a few decades with the new mindset etc will be enormous.
- ebildsten 7y ago
  Check out the Founder's Pledge report on Climate Change for recommended non-profits: https://founderspledge.com/stories/climate-change-executive-summary https://founderspledge.com/stories/climate-change-executive-... There's a similar analysis by Let's Fund: https://lets-fund.org/clean-energy/ https://lets-fund.org/clean-energy/ From asking a few folks in climate-related academia, they seem to support all of these recommendations

zulgan 7y ago

rebel.

SuoDuanDao 7y ago
Civil wars cost a lot of fossil fuels to wage. At least wait for the cybertruck to come out ;)
- perfunctory 7y ago
  rebellion != civil war
  - hutzlibu 7y ago
    In theory.
  - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
    Given that the yellow vests started rioting over a pretty modest increase in fuel taxes, I don't think popular support for dealing with climate change has nearly the level of popular support our respective circles of friends would have us believe. My own sense is that the typical world leader would love to save their beachfront properties, but lacks the skills to sell the necessary sacrifices when competing with aspiring democratic leaders. Environmentalism needs a populist of its own. Ms. Thunberg did her best, but this really calls for a Lincoln more than a D'ark.
    - perfunctory 7y ago
      > Given that the yellow vests started rioting over a pretty modest increase in fuel taxes This is not the full story. To balance the fuel tax increase, the wealth tax for the rich was eliminated. Who knows what would have happened if it wasn't the case.
    - tomp 7y ago
      That’s why all “social good” “incentive” taxes should be revenue-neutral (paying all taxes collected back to citizens as universal income). I have absolutely zero trust in governments to spend any such tax sensibly otherwise, and I’m probably not alone.
- fakeNewsIsHere 7y ago
  Elons reputation is so tarnished in my mind. All of his industries rely on taking tax money. Billionaires being billionaires...

adrianN 7y ago

Vote and convince others to vote. Join the citizen's climate lobby.

maliker 7y ago

Become Jeff Bezos and put $10 billion [1] towards lobbying... Last Christmas I was looking for a good climate charity to donate to. I was disappointed to find that GiveWell [2], which does great reviews of charity effectiveness, found a lot effective charities in public health and one in poverty reduction, but nothing in the area of climate. It's very frustrating. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/technology/jeff-bezos-climate-change-earth-fund.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/technology/jeff-bezos-cli... [2] https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities

lkbm 7y ago
Giving What We Can has a section on climate charities[0]. One listed is Cool Earth, which I thought Givewell had recommended in the past, but I'm not seeing it in any of their archived recommendations. (It's also worth noting that addressing global poverty is a pro-climate activity, in addition to be a moral imperative. Its climate-effects may be more long-term than is relevant, though.) [0] https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/research/other-causes/climate-change/ https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/research/other-causes/climat...
foolinaround 7y ago
the best bang for the buck will come when one donates to causes that improve literacy and wholesale lifestyle improvements (both children as well as adults) They will not see immediate results, but the change in a few decades with the new mindset etc will be enormous.
ebildsten 7y ago
Check out the Founder's Pledge report on Climate Change for recommended non-profits: https://founderspledge.com/stories/climate-change-executive-summary https://founderspledge.com/stories/climate-change-executive-... There's a similar analysis by Let's Fund: https://lets-fund.org/clean-energy/ https://lets-fund.org/clean-energy/ From asking a few folks in climate-related academia, they seem to support all of these recommendations