> I wonder if the person you’re replying to previously drive a much less refined car, and would see most of the same benefits even when driving the Tesla manual

> I wonder if the person you’re replying to previously drive a much less refined car, and would see most of the same benefits even when driving the Tesla manually. Yeah, I’ve driven shit boxes (see my comment about the Toyota Tercel stick shift). But I still much prefer long drives in my Model 3 rather than my wife’s GL450. Before I got the Model 3 I drove an Infiniti G35 for 12 years, which was a perfectly “refined” car IMO. > That’s probably why they find driving so tiring, because... I guess you just have to try it. Again, I’m not saying driving is this exhausting thing that requires white-knuckled concentration. I’m saying that with AP it is just better in every way. You’re totally free to disagree if your personal experience with AP is different, but I think speculating on my driving ineptitude or poor choice of vehicle is kind of pointless / shooting the messenger.