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I still don't understand why companies like Microsoft and Google hire folks from Oracle to run a cloud business. Oracle is the only player that can't do anythin

I still don't understand why companies like Microsoft and Google hire folks from Oracle to run a cloud business. Oracle is the only player that can't do anything on the cloud; even IBM has a better game.

reaperducer 7y ago
Because good people sometimes end up working for bad companies and want a way out?
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago
  Yup. Many of them didn't even choose to work for "bad" companies: eg. Oracle made tons of acquisitions, including Sun.
wmf 7y ago
Those Oracle people understand enterprise customers.
thu2111 7y ago
Oracle Cloud is apparently not that bad, but it has no mindshare. They hire from Oracle because Oracle is really, really good at selling to the 'enterprise' i.e. the sorts of non-tech firms where non-tech executives make tech spending decisions. They often expect to be lavished with attention and sometimes perks (see Jackson Hole discussions above) in order to agree to a platform buy. Oracle's skill at selling into that environment is pretty legendary.
- zxcmx 7y ago
  I tried spinning up some free Oracle cloud instances (you get 2!) but it was "out of capacity" (at least in that instance shape?) in sydney region... not an experience I've had with any other cloud provider. Perhaps they are too popular? /s
  - thu2111 7y ago
    In Sydney!? Quite possibly. Australia is pretty small, I'm surprised they have a datacenter there at all tbh.
    - zxcmx 7y ago
      I guess so were they because they didn't put any computers in it.