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So become an unpaid Microsoft employee to re-add features that used to exist and that do exist in nearly every alternative? Don't they make enough money off of

So become an unpaid Microsoft employee to re-add features that used to exist and that do exist in nearly every alternative? Don't they make enough money off of os sales, subscriptions, forced ads and telemetry? They need free labour to fix their broken software too?

pjmlp 7y ago
Many people love to be FAANG unpaid employees, why should it be any different for Microsoft?
- grawprog 7y ago
  Why not put those efforts towards an actual open source calculator project that could really use the volunteer efforts and doesn't already have an army of paid employees? https://qalculate.github.io/ https://qalculate.github.io/ https://bitbucket.org/heldercorreia/speedcrunch/ https://bitbucket.org/heldercorreia/speedcrunch/
  - chaorace 7y ago
    Is that a rhetorical question, or do I really get to argue the benefits of contributing to one of the most installed calculators on the planet? Contributing to small projects is good, but it's not for everyone and you're definitely kidding yourself if an MIT licensed software on Github doesn't qualify as "actual open source".
    - grawprog 7y ago
      Yeah I tend to consider moral and ethical implications of my decisions also, I forget not everyone does. I feel time spent working on projects for a company that hasn't spent the better part of 3 decades trying to dominate and control the entirety of the computer market using strategies that destroy competition and supress innovation, that tracks and monitors its users, that has such a small amount of respect that it will inject ads into a product most customers are forced to purchase should they wish to own a computer, is more valuable in that it makes the world just a slightly better place, rather than a slightly shittier one.
      - pjmlp 7y ago
        For a moment I thought you were talking about Google.
  - fuu_dev 7y ago
    Because you want to reach >800M users and want everyone to have access to it?
WorldMaker 7y ago
It's an option. Though I didn't just mean patches from "contribute", it could also mean voice/ideas/discussion: instead of pseudonymously complain on HN, there's Feedback Hub and GitHub Issues. As an option that's available.

pjmlp 7y ago

Many people love to be FAANG unpaid employees, why should it be any different for Microsoft?

grawprog 7y ago
Why not put those efforts towards an actual open source calculator project that could really use the volunteer efforts and doesn't already have an army of paid employees? https://qalculate.github.io/ https://qalculate.github.io/ https://bitbucket.org/heldercorreia/speedcrunch/ https://bitbucket.org/heldercorreia/speedcrunch/
- chaorace 7y ago
  Is that a rhetorical question, or do I really get to argue the benefits of contributing to one of the most installed calculators on the planet? Contributing to small projects is good, but it's not for everyone and you're definitely kidding yourself if an MIT licensed software on Github doesn't qualify as "actual open source".
  - grawprog 7y ago
    Yeah I tend to consider moral and ethical implications of my decisions also, I forget not everyone does. I feel time spent working on projects for a company that hasn't spent the better part of 3 decades trying to dominate and control the entirety of the computer market using strategies that destroy competition and supress innovation, that tracks and monitors its users, that has such a small amount of respect that it will inject ads into a product most customers are forced to purchase should they wish to own a computer, is more valuable in that it makes the world just a slightly better place, rather than a slightly shittier one.
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      For a moment I thought you were talking about Google.
- fuu_dev 7y ago
  Because you want to reach >800M users and want everyone to have access to it?

WorldMaker 7y ago

It's an option. Though I didn't just mean patches from "contribute", it could also mean voice/ideas/discussion: instead of pseudonymously complain on HN, there's Feedback Hub and GitHub Issues. As an option that's available.