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No because of bomb attacks during the 1970s. At least in Germany. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Sprengstoffanschl%C3%A4gen https://de.wikipedia.org/w
by fxj 7y ago
No because of bomb attacks during the 1970s. At least in Germany.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Sprengstoffanschl%C3%A4gen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Sprengstoffanschl%C3...
- kelnos 7y agoI never really understood this. Certainly it's easier to bomb a crowded place by putting something in a locker, and leaving it there until it's convenient to detonate it (even if that's done via a timer that's set a day or two in the future)... but it's not much harder to just toss a bag with a bomb in it in a public trash can, or even just leave it somewhere vaguely-hidden. Sure, the likelihood of discovery is higher, but it still seems to me that it would work most of the time.
- alwayseasy 7y agoThere was a wave of trashcan bombers in Paris in the 90's that's also why you have transparent or simple plastic trashcans now.
- NoodleIncident 7y agoMany of these places also have transparent bag-only trash cans, and people are sent to investigate suspicious abandoned packages.
- discodave 7y agoFunnily enough, the risk of terrorism is why bins (trash cans) were removed from places like the London underground due to the IRA. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_the_London_Underground https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_the_London_Undergro... [2] https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/09/throwing-it-all-away-nyc-subway-trashes-more-trash-cans/3151/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/09/throwing-it-a...
- daurnimator 7y agoIt was.... and then they removed all the rubbish bins. They eventually reinstated the bins after a lot of littering, but they're transparent: https://i.imgur.com/zLrhZwH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zLrhZwH.jpg
- kelnos 7y agoI feel like it'd be pretty easy to hide a bomb in a not-that-large food container and toss that in the bin.
- jessaustin 7y agoUnless they're also doing away with trashcans, I don't see how that is an explanation.
- wiredfool 7y agoThey have in some places, though I think they're making a return.
- zabzonk 7y agoIn London, at the height of the IRA bombing campaign, they _did_ do away with rubbish bins in public places.
- andrewaylett 7y agoEven today, they're of a special design to limit their use as extra shrapnel around a bomb. The UK does reasonably well at "hidden" security features. Another type are "decorative" features -- like the word "Arsenal" outside the football club, or the ponds in front of the Scottish Parliament building -- which just happen to be in the right place and of the right strength to prevent vehicles crashing through.
- fxj 7y agoNowadays almost every garbage can has its own CCTV. Even single suitcases or bags without an owner are found quickly. Lockers are much more difficult to monitor.
- xsmasher 7y agoBART (Bay Area (San Francisco) Rapid Transit) removed trash cans in all underground BART stations for "security reasons" after 9/11.
- refurb 7y agoClosed all the bathrooms too.
- wrboyce 7y ago
- qohen 7y agoAlso, in the US, also in the 70's -- a bomb was put in a locker at Grand Central Station in 1976 and, a year earlier, a bomb was placed in a locker at Grand Central Station. Both bombs went off (and both may have been connected to Balkan politics) [0]. I believe one or both of these bombs explains why lockers were removed in NYC (and this may have led to other places removing them too). [0] https://observer.com/2016/01/why-hasnt-washington-explained-the-1975-laguardia-airport-bombing/ https://observer.com/2016/01/why-hasnt-washington-explained-...