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I just watched the episode yesterday on Youtube. There wasn't anything excessively critical of Modi outside of Oliver's usual needling shtick. He definitely c

I just watched the episode yesterday on Youtube. There wasn't anything excessively critical of Modi outside of Oliver's usual needling shtick. He definitely called out how BJP party founders adored Hitler though. https://youtu.be/qVIXUhZ2AWs?t=499 https://youtu.be/qVIXUhZ2AWs?t=499

nabla9 7y ago
>excessively critical Other than pointing out the fact that Hindu nationalists are hateful violent supremacists who remove citizenship from Indian Muslims and are already building concentration camps for them. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/india https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/india
- eklavya 7y ago
  Assuming good faith I invite you to try and learn more about the CAA (law in question). I don’t know why people keep saying it takes away citizenship of Indian Muslims when it only provides citizenship to persecuted non muslim minorities from neighbouring countries because of the promise made when the partition on the basis of religion was done. The minorities are living in hell in Pakistan (girl kidnapped from her marriage ceremony to be forcefully “wedded” to a Muslim guy) and to a lesser extent in Bangladesh. Minorities dropped from 20% to less than 2%. While in India it rose from 14M to 200M. It also doesn’t give citizenship to people who have already not entered India before 2014. On the issue of non inclusion of Muslims, it’s just practically not possible when you have more than 30,000,000 illegal immigrants from Bangladesh according to 90s figures, unless you want to just give citizenship to everybody. India has extremists of every religion like everywhere else. Some people only ever see Hindu extremism. They are either removed from reality or have an agenda.
  - dharmach 7y ago
    India shouldn't discriminate her citizens based on religion that is understandable but to expect that she must also treat Muslim and non-Muslim citizens of Islamic countries as equally suffering refugees would be a discrimination.
  - ak1234 7y ago
    Radical Hinduism is more dangerous than radical Islam. The harmless looking vegetarian upper caste Hindus who work in the next cubicle is nothing but a cauldron of hate and bigotry. After all they started practicing un-touchability and casteism before Westerners knew a continent called Africa existed.
    - legolas2412 7y ago
      Radical Hinduism more dangerous than radical Islam? No way. Have you lost all critical thinking? We are protesting this because india is a secular country that is on its way to become a theocratic Hindu nationalist country. We say that modi is making India a Hindu Pakistan. You see, we consider that derogatory. Pakistan is derogatory. It's because Pakistan is already a theocratic country, and even with CAA and NRC, India is better for its religious minorities.
      - ak1234 7y ago
        Yes, radical Hinduism is more dangerous. Radical Islam is on the wane...hit its peak with Osama, ISIS etc. Even an idiot like Muhammed Bin Salman helps to defeat radical Islam (if not he will be gone.) What remains is Iran led Shia groups. They are not as vicious as Sunni groups financed by Saudis. Radical Hinduism is what you see in India right now. And the biggest enablers are the suit-boot wearing Hindu upper castes in USA, the original inventors of bigotry and racism.
  - foolinaround 7y ago
    > when it only provides citizenship to persecuted non muslim minorities from neighbouring countries Does it provide citizenship to non-muslim Tamils from SriLanka? Are'nt they persecuted too? If not, why not?
- snambi 7y ago
  Hindu nationalists are hateful violent supremacists who remove citizenship from Indian Muslims The above statement is NOT true. This is mis-information.
  - nabla9 7y ago
    I stand behind that claim. There is law proposals that will effectively accomplish this.
    - 0xcafecafe 7y ago
      Can you please point that out? Your previous statement is factually incorrect. The law in question (CAA) grants a one time amnesty to religiously persecuted minorities from neighboring countries of India. Heck, even Sri Lankan Tamils (Hindus) are not included since that was a sectarian conflict. And that amnesty is one time for anyone who came in before December 2014. For the rest, the existing path to naturalize in 11 years remains. It does not affect any existing citizen whatsoever. Regarding NRC, it was a supreme court mandated exercise which was hastily done in Assam without a well thought out process. There has been no proposal issued about a nationwide NRC and what it would look like. The govt also clarified there are no plans to execute NRC anytime the future. I thought this forum is more on facts and less on rhetoric. I abhor the banning of anything critical but we should be wary of misinformation at the same time.
    - tibbydudeza 7y ago
      And the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) is just bunch of misunderstood non facist folks who love khaki uniforms and absolutely have no agenda against the Muslim citizens of India. Is the OP for real ???.
  - srean 7y ago
    Their politicians don't even celebrate and eulogize Nathuram Godse who assassinated Gandhi
- booboolayla 7y ago
  I thought Indian Muslims were all in Pakistan - the land they carved from India with the help of the British?
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- three_seagrass 7y ago
  >excessively critical of Modi outside of Oliver's usual needling shtick. I don't know why you left that particular key context in the sentence out of the quote, because Oliver wasn't excessively critical of Modi. I think you are mistaking my comment for defending the BJP, which it's not. I did mention that Oliver was ripping into the BJP, which is the nationalist party you mention.

nabla9 7y ago

>excessively critical Other than pointing out the fact that Hindu nationalists are hateful violent supremacists who remove citizenship from Indian Muslims and are already building concentration camps for them. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/india https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/india

eklavya 7y ago
Assuming good faith I invite you to try and learn more about the CAA (law in question). I don’t know why people keep saying it takes away citizenship of Indian Muslims when it only provides citizenship to persecuted non muslim minorities from neighbouring countries because of the promise made when the partition on the basis of religion was done. The minorities are living in hell in Pakistan (girl kidnapped from her marriage ceremony to be forcefully “wedded” to a Muslim guy) and to a lesser extent in Bangladesh. Minorities dropped from 20% to less than 2%. While in India it rose from 14M to 200M. It also doesn’t give citizenship to people who have already not entered India before 2014. On the issue of non inclusion of Muslims, it’s just practically not possible when you have more than 30,000,000 illegal immigrants from Bangladesh according to 90s figures, unless you want to just give citizenship to everybody. India has extremists of every religion like everywhere else. Some people only ever see Hindu extremism. They are either removed from reality or have an agenda.
- dharmach 7y ago
  India shouldn't discriminate her citizens based on religion that is understandable but to expect that she must also treat Muslim and non-Muslim citizens of Islamic countries as equally suffering refugees would be a discrimination.
- ak1234 7y ago
  Radical Hinduism is more dangerous than radical Islam. The harmless looking vegetarian upper caste Hindus who work in the next cubicle is nothing but a cauldron of hate and bigotry. After all they started practicing un-touchability and casteism before Westerners knew a continent called Africa existed.
  - legolas2412 7y ago
    Radical Hinduism more dangerous than radical Islam? No way. Have you lost all critical thinking? We are protesting this because india is a secular country that is on its way to become a theocratic Hindu nationalist country. We say that modi is making India a Hindu Pakistan. You see, we consider that derogatory. Pakistan is derogatory. It's because Pakistan is already a theocratic country, and even with CAA and NRC, India is better for its religious minorities.
    - ak1234 7y ago
      Yes, radical Hinduism is more dangerous. Radical Islam is on the wane...hit its peak with Osama, ISIS etc. Even an idiot like Muhammed Bin Salman helps to defeat radical Islam (if not he will be gone.) What remains is Iran led Shia groups. They are not as vicious as Sunni groups financed by Saudis. Radical Hinduism is what you see in India right now. And the biggest enablers are the suit-boot wearing Hindu upper castes in USA, the original inventors of bigotry and racism.
- foolinaround 7y ago
  > when it only provides citizenship to persecuted non muslim minorities from neighbouring countries Does it provide citizenship to non-muslim Tamils from SriLanka? Are'nt they persecuted too? If not, why not?
snambi 7y ago
Hindu nationalists are hateful violent supremacists who remove citizenship from Indian Muslims The above statement is NOT true. This is mis-information.
- nabla9 7y ago
  I stand behind that claim. There is law proposals that will effectively accomplish this.
  - 0xcafecafe 7y ago
    Can you please point that out? Your previous statement is factually incorrect. The law in question (CAA) grants a one time amnesty to religiously persecuted minorities from neighboring countries of India. Heck, even Sri Lankan Tamils (Hindus) are not included since that was a sectarian conflict. And that amnesty is one time for anyone who came in before December 2014. For the rest, the existing path to naturalize in 11 years remains. It does not affect any existing citizen whatsoever. Regarding NRC, it was a supreme court mandated exercise which was hastily done in Assam without a well thought out process. There has been no proposal issued about a nationwide NRC and what it would look like. The govt also clarified there are no plans to execute NRC anytime the future. I thought this forum is more on facts and less on rhetoric. I abhor the banning of anything critical but we should be wary of misinformation at the same time.
  - tibbydudeza 7y ago
    And the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) is just bunch of misunderstood non facist folks who love khaki uniforms and absolutely have no agenda against the Muslim citizens of India. Is the OP for real ???.
- srean 7y ago
  Their politicians don't even celebrate and eulogize Nathuram Godse who assassinated Gandhi
booboolayla 7y ago
I thought Indian Muslims were all in Pakistan - the land they carved from India with the help of the British?
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three_seagrass 7y ago
>excessively critical of Modi outside of Oliver's usual needling shtick. I don't know why you left that particular key context in the sentence out of the quote, because Oliver wasn't excessively critical of Modi. I think you are mistaking my comment for defending the BJP, which it's not. I did mention that Oliver was ripping into the BJP, which is the nationalist party you mention.