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"t-" : A less-than-minimal task list "manager"

beoba 16y ago
http://taskwarrior.org/ http://taskwarrior.org/
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  You seem to have missed the point. As it says in the documentation for t: If you need anything beyond the basics you might want to look at todo.txt or TaskWarrior instead. They’re great tools with lots of bells and whistles. In contrast, t (and therefore t-) does almost nothing. Instead, to make your task list prettier, do some work! http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/#it-does-the-simplest-thing-that-could-possibly-work http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/#it-does-the-simplest-thing-...
  - beoba 16y ago
    Not at all. Those "bells and whistles" you decry have negligible impact its ease of use, as it's been designed such that the extras (due dates, priorities, projects, etc) are only there if/when you actually want to use them. Otherwise it's just "task add something", "task list", "task done something". And if you do find yourself wanting to use those "bells and whistles", they're just a man page away.
    - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
      Having tried, I can't make it build and run on SuSE 8.1. Having read the page, yes, if all I want is a list of tasks, no doubt TaskWarrior and do it. I don't think it's a bad tool, not at all. It just doesn't look like what I want. I like being able to just go in and edit the task list. I like being able to use the Unix philosophy and have sorting, prioritising, selecting, and counting in a pipeline. I don't want much, and t- gives me what I want.
Groxx 16y ago
I don't see a difference between that and t, aside from -e and --delete-if-empty. Am I missing something? Or does t not have sort-friendly output? (if so, t- all the way, that's a big bonus) http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/ http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/
- buster 16y ago
  I don't see a difference between that and a plain textfile..
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    That's what I thought when I first read about "t". Then I tried it, and it really does feel different. <fx: shrug> YMMV.
  - Groxx 16y ago
    Plain text files you have to select an editor to open it in, modify it, and save it. More steps than necessary, a command line interface really is ideal for something super-simple like this. Though it could be made as / might just be a handful of bash scripts wrapping around `cat`, not everyone has the know-how or desire to make such a thing, but many can use it.
    - buster 16y ago
      But i have to open a terminal to use t. I argue that using vim is more efficient then t: - delete a task 'dd' -> two keystrokes, no need to remember some arbitrary id - select a task 'gg' -> go to line number - add new task 'o' -> one keystroke - add a bash alias 't' for "vim ~/.tasks" and you have the power of vim and still need fewer keystrokes to manage tasks ;) Still, why i would use such a tool is far beyond me, honestly. I can understand using some advanced taskmanagers with GUI or a textfile, but i don't understand the benefits of t ;)
      - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
        You don't always have a terminal open? I find that odd. Personally I always have a terminal open - it's where I do most of my work - so to add a task it's just typing it in, preceeded by "t-". I don't have to remember arbitrary IDs, they are listed. But you're convinced it's of no value to you, and that's cool. Don't use it. But if you haven't tried it, can you really be sure?
RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
To answer some of the comments made already, and to preempt others, I largely hacked "t-" together because I wanted to see if "t" would be worth bothering with. It seemed little better than just having a text file and so I didn't really see the point. But equally (I thought) I could be wrong. But "t" didn't run on my very old, stick-it-in-the-corner-and-occasionally-play machine (which only has Python 2.2.1) so I spent a happy hour putting this together, more-or-less at random. I'm finding it's helping, but maybe that will only be till the novelty wears off.
- RBerenguel 16y ago
  I think this would suit a Nanonote (Qi Hardware's pocket computer), to use for task management. I use emacs' org mode in it, but the time it takes to boot (15 seconds)+opening emacs (I didn't check, but probably as long) make it too cumbersome. When I have it connected for downloading things I'll try t- (I have debian in it). Thanks for sharing it, these one-hour happy projects are the most fun to read and hack
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    Cool - let me know how you get on, and whether I can help.
    - RBerenguel 16y ago
      Got it working without any problems after adding the "warnings" suggestion above. It is slightly slow (well, it is python and the Nanonote only has 32Mb RAM, taskwarrior is snappier, though, but that's what you get with C, I guess). I found an odd thing: I added twice a task with the same name, and the random number is the same, i.e. t- test -> 098f test, doing it again results in 098f test twice. I guess the "random" number is just some hash applied to the string, but this means that let's say, if I put three "do the laundry" (3 washmachines, for example), when I remove them all three will be deleted at once.
      - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
cturner 16y ago
Something I wrote recently: a repl that keeps track of things I'd like to spend five minutes a day on. sqlite3 behind it. When I type 'run' it lists the tasks in random order. For each, I can say yes or no, and if yes, leave a note. At some time in the future I'll be able to write a tool to see the log being kept in sqlite3.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  Care to make it available? Don't even bother to clean it up or make it run on other platforms, just show us what it does, and make a copy available for download. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to see it.
  - cturner 16y ago
    Thanks for your interest. My home internet is down, so I don't have the latest version handy. This shows I should keep things in github. I'll post an older version from my laptop here now, and follow up later with the latest if I remember. http://pastebin.com/bxt7RLX5 http://pastebin.com/bxt7RLX5 This is missing key functionality: - 'run' command which spoon feeds you a random selection of the tasks However, you can start it, and see the schema, and that direction it's headed in.
    - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
      Thanks for that - an interesting take on the task/problem/idea. I hadn't thought of a REPL ... you've made me think again. I don't think I'll do it, but I've got another idea in mind.
      - cturner 16y ago
        Here's the most recent version, which supports 'run'. http://pastebin.com/PbDZesWp http://pastebin.com/PbDZesWp
- RBerenguel 16y ago
  I'm with RiderOfGiraffes, I'd love to see the code or test it.
sant0sk1 16y ago
My task management solution is similarly minimal, consisting of just 2 bash functions that operate on a text file. The twist with mine is that I embed the list on my desktop to increase awareness of things left to do. More here: http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2010/12/minimally-awesome-todos/ http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2010/12/minimally-awesome-todos/
- asb 16y ago
  I like it. The following todone definition will add a strikethrough to lines marked as done rather than deleting them (your terminal emulator must support the relevant control code to display it properly). function todone() { sed -i -e "/$*/s/.*/\o033[9m&\o033[0m/" $TODO; } edit: gnome-terminal supports this, but it seems xterm and putty do not
Newky 16y ago
For my task management I used a perl script which appends comments to the bottom of the script as to do items. i.e script and to do list are one and the same.
randallsquared 16y ago
There's no point in telling people to make it executable in your instructions, given that it needs all the extra arguments in the alias. Also, putting these two lines before your import will make it run without complaint on Python 2.6.x: import warnings warnings.filterwarnings('ignore', 'the md5 module is deprecated')
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  Cool - done both of those. Thanks.
Bjoern 16y ago
Here is yet another solution for this kind of problem. Dev-Todo http://swapoff.org/DevTodo http://swapoff.org/DevTodo If you use e.g. zsh then maybe you also like this for your rc file. http://pastie.org/1585888 http://pastie.org/1585888
rnadna 16y ago
I modified slightly the suggestion for bash prompt, to read as follows (the 'git' stuff is pretty standard): function count_tasks { ~/bin/t | wc -l | sed -e's/ *//' 2> /dev/null | sed -e s/0//' } export PS1="\h:\W\$(parse_git_branch)\$(count_tasks) $ "

beoba 16y ago

http://taskwarrior.org/ http://taskwarrior.org/

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
You seem to have missed the point. As it says in the documentation for t: If you need anything beyond the basics you might want to look at todo.txt or TaskWarrior instead. They’re great tools with lots of bells and whistles. In contrast, t (and therefore t-) does almost nothing. Instead, to make your task list prettier, do some work! http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/#it-does-the-simplest-thing-that-could-possibly-work http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/#it-does-the-simplest-thing-...
- beoba 16y ago
  Not at all. Those "bells and whistles" you decry have negligible impact its ease of use, as it's been designed such that the extras (due dates, priorities, projects, etc) are only there if/when you actually want to use them. Otherwise it's just "task add something", "task list", "task done something". And if you do find yourself wanting to use those "bells and whistles", they're just a man page away.
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    Having tried, I can't make it build and run on SuSE 8.1. Having read the page, yes, if all I want is a list of tasks, no doubt TaskWarrior and do it. I don't think it's a bad tool, not at all. It just doesn't look like what I want. I like being able to just go in and edit the task list. I like being able to use the Unix philosophy and have sorting, prioritising, selecting, and counting in a pipeline. I don't want much, and t- gives me what I want.

Groxx 16y ago

I don't see a difference between that and t, aside from -e and --delete-if-empty. Am I missing something? Or does t not have sort-friendly output? (if so, t- all the way, that's a big bonus) http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/ http://stevelosh.com/projects/t/

buster 16y ago
I don't see a difference between that and a plain textfile..
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  That's what I thought when I first read about "t". Then I tried it, and it really does feel different. <fx: shrug> YMMV.
- Groxx 16y ago
  Plain text files you have to select an editor to open it in, modify it, and save it. More steps than necessary, a command line interface really is ideal for something super-simple like this. Though it could be made as / might just be a handful of bash scripts wrapping around `cat`, not everyone has the know-how or desire to make such a thing, but many can use it.
  - buster 16y ago
    But i have to open a terminal to use t. I argue that using vim is more efficient then t: - delete a task 'dd' -> two keystrokes, no need to remember some arbitrary id - select a task 'gg' -> go to line number - add new task 'o' -> one keystroke - add a bash alias 't' for "vim ~/.tasks" and you have the power of vim and still need fewer keystrokes to manage tasks ;) Still, why i would use such a tool is far beyond me, honestly. I can understand using some advanced taskmanagers with GUI or a textfile, but i don't understand the benefits of t ;)
    - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
      You don't always have a terminal open? I find that odd. Personally I always have a terminal open - it's where I do most of my work - so to add a task it's just typing it in, preceeded by "t-". I don't have to remember arbitrary IDs, they are listed. But you're convinced it's of no value to you, and that's cool. Don't use it. But if you haven't tried it, can you really be sure?

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago

To answer some of the comments made already, and to preempt others, I largely hacked "t-" together because I wanted to see if "t" would be worth bothering with. It seemed little better than just having a text file and so I didn't really see the point. But equally (I thought) I could be wrong. But "t" didn't run on my very old, stick-it-in-the-corner-and-occasionally-play machine (which only has Python 2.2.1) so I spent a happy hour putting this together, more-or-less at random. I'm finding it's helping, but maybe that will only be till the novelty wears off.

RBerenguel 16y ago
I think this would suit a Nanonote (Qi Hardware's pocket computer), to use for task management. I use emacs' org mode in it, but the time it takes to boot (15 seconds)+opening emacs (I didn't check, but probably as long) make it too cumbersome. When I have it connected for downloading things I'll try t- (I have debian in it). Thanks for sharing it, these one-hour happy projects are the most fun to read and hack
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  Cool - let me know how you get on, and whether I can help.
  - RBerenguel 16y ago
    Got it working without any problems after adding the "warnings" suggestion above. It is slightly slow (well, it is python and the Nanonote only has 32Mb RAM, taskwarrior is snappier, though, but that's what you get with C, I guess). I found an odd thing: I added twice a task with the same name, and the random number is the same, i.e. t- test -> 098f test, doing it again results in 098f test twice. I guess the "random" number is just some hash applied to the string, but this means that let's say, if I put three "do the laundry" (3 washmachines, for example), when I remove them all three will be deleted at once.
    - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago

cturner 16y ago

Something I wrote recently: a repl that keeps track of things I'd like to spend five minutes a day on. sqlite3 behind it. When I type 'run' it lists the tasks in random order. For each, I can say yes or no, and if yes, leave a note. At some time in the future I'll be able to write a tool to see the log being kept in sqlite3.

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
Care to make it available? Don't even bother to clean it up or make it run on other platforms, just show us what it does, and make a copy available for download. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to see it.
- cturner 16y ago
  Thanks for your interest. My home internet is down, so I don't have the latest version handy. This shows I should keep things in github. I'll post an older version from my laptop here now, and follow up later with the latest if I remember. http://pastebin.com/bxt7RLX5 http://pastebin.com/bxt7RLX5 This is missing key functionality: - 'run' command which spoon feeds you a random selection of the tasks However, you can start it, and see the schema, and that direction it's headed in.
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    Thanks for that - an interesting take on the task/problem/idea. I hadn't thought of a REPL ... you've made me think again. I don't think I'll do it, but I've got another idea in mind.
    - cturner 16y ago
      Here's the most recent version, which supports 'run'. http://pastebin.com/PbDZesWp http://pastebin.com/PbDZesWp
RBerenguel 16y ago
I'm with RiderOfGiraffes, I'd love to see the code or test it.

sant0sk1 16y ago

My task management solution is similarly minimal, consisting of just 2 bash functions that operate on a text file. The twist with mine is that I embed the list on my desktop to increase awareness of things left to do. More here: http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2010/12/minimally-awesome-todos/ http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2010/12/minimally-awesome-todos/

asb 16y ago
I like it. The following todone definition will add a strikethrough to lines marked as done rather than deleting them (your terminal emulator must support the relevant control code to display it properly). function todone() { sed -i -e "/$*/s/.*/\o033[9m&\o033[0m/" $TODO; } edit: gnome-terminal supports this, but it seems xterm and putty do not

Newky 16y ago

For my task management I used a perl script which appends comments to the bottom of the script as to do items. i.e script and to do list are one and the same.

randallsquared 16y ago

There's no point in telling people to make it executable in your instructions, given that it needs all the extra arguments in the alias. Also, putting these two lines before your import will make it run without complaint on Python 2.6.x: import warnings warnings.filterwarnings('ignore', 'the md5 module is deprecated')

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
Cool - done both of those. Thanks.

Bjoern 16y ago

Here is yet another solution for this kind of problem. Dev-Todo http://swapoff.org/DevTodo http://swapoff.org/DevTodo If you use e.g. zsh then maybe you also like this for your rc file. http://pastie.org/1585888 http://pastie.org/1585888

rnadna 16y ago

I modified slightly the suggestion for bash prompt, to read as follows (the 'git' stuff is pretty standard): function count_tasks { ~/bin/t | wc -l | sed -e's/ *//' 2> /dev/null | sed -e s/0//' } export PS1="\h:\W\$(parse_git_branch)\$(count_tasks) $ "