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I absolutely agree. However, in my experience, recognition of the metagame comes way before you actually require it.

dr-detroit 7y ago
Most people who play these games watch elite pro youtubers and apply the pro meta to bottom-ladder-rank matches
Proziam 7y ago
This is 100% true. Unfortunately, it inhibits player growth tremendously. Players who are too focused on the meta lose sight of fundamentals. This can manifest itself in weird ways, like LoL players picking up the flavor of the month picks instead of playing what they're strongest on when they can. When I first started coaching LoL I came in to coach a team where the coaches I replaced suffered from some pretty serious delusions that come from the same place. They had very strong beliefs about playing 'the meta' and the value of certain flex picks at the time. When I took over and took the team back to fundamentals and reduced champion pools by half - winrates skyrocketed. It's really easy to want to copy what you see works for other people, but it's not always the best course of action.
- kangnkodos 7y ago
  So chasing the latest LoL champion of the month is bad. That makes sense. But at what level does it pay off to take advantage of the meta changing, and change your main from time to time to adjust? I would say players around the border of silver and gold would benefit by paying attention to the meta.
  - Proziam 7y ago
    There are plenty of 'one-trick' players who can make it to extremely high elo even if they aren't particularly competitive. [0]There's a schoolteacher in Korea(?) who streams in a cow costume and plays only Master Yi, on the Korean server. He's Diamond. And then there's players like BoxBox, who isn't exactly a one-trick, but clearly mains Riven. [1]He's at ladder rank 334 at the moment. And as a final example, there's the monster himself, Apdo. [2]Apdo is a famous player in China who has on multiple occasions been rank 1 (or boosted people to rank 1...) using mostly Twisted Fate. He's more than talented enough to play any champion well, but is most known for TF. Similar to BoxBox and Riven, but on a whole different plane of skill. All this is to say that there's no real need to change champions to continue climbing until you're at least above diamond, or if you want to play with a group where a synergistic team composition would be meaningful (like amateur tournaments). [0]https://www.twitch.tv/cowsep https://www.twitch.tv/cowsep [1]https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=boxbox https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=boxbox [1]https://www.twitch.tv/boxbox https://www.twitch.tv/boxbox [2]https://lol.gamepedia.com/Apdo https://lol.gamepedia.com/Apdo

Most people who play these games watch elite pro youtubers and apply the pro meta to bottom-ladder-rank matches

This is 100% true. Unfortunately, it inhibits player growth tremendously. Players who are too focused on the meta lose sight of fundamentals. This can manifest itself in weird ways, like LoL players picking up the flavor of the month picks instead of playing what they're strongest on when they can. When I first started coaching LoL I came in to coach a team where the coaches I replaced suffered from some pretty serious delusions that come from the same place. They had very strong beliefs about playing 'the meta' and the value of certain flex picks at the time. When I took over and took the team back to fundamentals and reduced champion pools by half - winrates skyrocketed. It's really easy to want to copy what you see works for other people, but it's not always the best course of action.

kangnkodos 7y ago
So chasing the latest LoL champion of the month is bad. That makes sense. But at what level does it pay off to take advantage of the meta changing, and change your main from time to time to adjust? I would say players around the border of silver and gold would benefit by paying attention to the meta.
- Proziam 7y ago
  There are plenty of 'one-trick' players who can make it to extremely high elo even if they aren't particularly competitive. [0]There's a schoolteacher in Korea(?) who streams in a cow costume and plays only Master Yi, on the Korean server. He's Diamond. And then there's players like BoxBox, who isn't exactly a one-trick, but clearly mains Riven. [1]He's at ladder rank 334 at the moment. And as a final example, there's the monster himself, Apdo. [2]Apdo is a famous player in China who has on multiple occasions been rank 1 (or boosted people to rank 1...) using mostly Twisted Fate. He's more than talented enough to play any champion well, but is most known for TF. Similar to BoxBox and Riven, but on a whole different plane of skill. All this is to say that there's no real need to change champions to continue climbing until you're at least above diamond, or if you want to play with a group where a synergistic team composition would be meaningful (like amateur tournaments). [0]https://www.twitch.tv/cowsep https://www.twitch.tv/cowsep [1]https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=boxbox https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=boxbox [1]https://www.twitch.tv/boxbox https://www.twitch.tv/boxbox [2]https://lol.gamepedia.com/Apdo https://lol.gamepedia.com/Apdo