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Particularly in the tech world? I suspect you may have been manipulated successful (everyone is under /attempts/ especially if you are convinced you aren't). I

Particularly in the tech world? I suspect you may have been manipulated successful (everyone is under /attempts/ especially if you are convinced you aren't). I think someone at PR firms are owed bonuses given how common that sentiment is despite lack of facts. Given Deepwater Horizon, Tobbaco Cover Ups, Bhopal and others calling it is silly. I won't dent sins and flaws but it is akin to calling the Seattle WTO riots the worst urban unrest in Western history and getting people to believe it! I can understand how that could happen but reflecting upon it clearly isn't true. It is just most don't go to that second level.

wutbrodo 7y ago
It really is ridiculous. If you think you can find many industries whose abuses don't match or exceed those of tech, you're dreaming. Tech's rapid rise, along with its warm and fuzzy image, just make it easy fodder for the especially-ignorant to pay attention to. That doesn't mean that corporate behavior in the tech world is no cause for concern, but any model (like the GP comment) that considers them to be an especially abusive or dismissive of norms is detached enough from reality that their view of the policy landscape is likely to be horribly warped.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  "If you think you can find many industries whose abuses don't match or exceed those of tech" I think this is predicated on the idea that "tech" is one industry among many. But it's not, it's something that is eating the world, that every industry uses. And it's sucking up such an insane amount of capital and resources because of the unreasonable effectiveness of modern manipulation of people. Some writer getting upset is not proof of anything, but the market cap of Google and Facebook is very strong evidence.
attqqq 7y ago
Most concerning is the widespread “be the first in the market at any costs now, deal with the fines later” mentality - see; Uber, and all those pesky rent-a-scooter startups

wutbrodo 7y ago

It really is ridiculous. If you think you can find many industries whose abuses don't match or exceed those of tech, you're dreaming. Tech's rapid rise, along with its warm and fuzzy image, just make it easy fodder for the especially-ignorant to pay attention to. That doesn't mean that corporate behavior in the tech world is no cause for concern, but any model (like the GP comment) that considers them to be an especially abusive or dismissive of norms is detached enough from reality that their view of the policy landscape is likely to be horribly warped.

perl4ever 7y ago
"If you think you can find many industries whose abuses don't match or exceed those of tech" I think this is predicated on the idea that "tech" is one industry among many. But it's not, it's something that is eating the world, that every industry uses. And it's sucking up such an insane amount of capital and resources because of the unreasonable effectiveness of modern manipulation of people. Some writer getting upset is not proof of anything, but the market cap of Google and Facebook is very strong evidence.

attqqq 7y ago

Most concerning is the widespread “be the first in the market at any costs now, deal with the fines later” mentality - see; Uber, and all those pesky rent-a-scooter startups