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Docker is pretty much abandoning Swarm though, so wouldn't recommend that at least. https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docker-captain/ http

by sk0g 7y ago

Docker is pretty much abandoning Swarm though, so wouldn't recommend that at least. https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docker-captain/ https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docke...

tra3 7y ago
That's a post from early 2018. As far as I know they continue to support and maintain swarm. To be fair though, I haven't been following it closely. I need to dive into docker clusters, but I still haven't picked the tech (k8s? swarm? flynn?)
thrtythreeforty 7y ago
What's a good replacement for Swarm that isn't as complex as Kubernetes? I like the platform abstraction and flexibility of k8s, it's just really heavy for many of my use cases.
- chosenken 7y ago
  I'd checkout HashiCorp's Nomad: https://nomadproject.io/ https://nomadproject.io/
- enos_feedler 7y ago
  What are your core use cases? And would you imagine growing into more complex use cases that Kubernetes makes sense for?
- manigandham 7y ago
  I'd advise learning the basics of Kubernetes anyway. Managed offerings like GKE take away all of the operational burden so you can just deploy your app with minimal setup, usually just 1 or a handful of YAML files.
- drodgers 7y ago
  I hear good things about Hashicorp Nomad from people who've used it: https://nomadproject.io/ https://nomadproject.io/ Especially if you're already using Consul, it should fit the bill perfectly.
yskchu 7y ago
> Docker is pretty much abandoning Swarm though, so wouldn't recommend that at least. > https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docke.. https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docke.... The post you link specifically says swarm is not dead, in like the first sentence of the post: "No. Swarm is not dead." It also says: "This was written early 2018. See my update to this video including Docker Inc. interview in late 2018, and then at DockerCon 2019 Docker again confirmed new features and commitment to Swarm. Most of their customers prefer it."
- manigandham 7y ago
  It's effectively dead based on usage. Just about every modern project uses Kubernetes for container orchestration while Swarm (and others like Cattle, DC/OS, etc) have decreased in popularity.
  - tra3 7y ago
    Here's a commitment from Docker's new overlords to support swarm for the next 2 years: https://www.mirantis.com/blog/mirantis-will-continue-to-support-and-develop-docker-swarm/ https://www.mirantis.com/blog/mirantis-will-continue-to-supp...
    - manigandham 7y ago
      Support doesn't mean usage. Kubernetes is where the community is, not Swarm.

by sk0g 7y ago

tra3 7y ago

That's a post from early 2018. As far as I know they continue to support and maintain swarm. To be fair though, I haven't been following it closely. I need to dive into docker clusters, but I still haven't picked the tech (k8s? swarm? flynn?)

thrtythreeforty 7y ago

What's a good replacement for Swarm that isn't as complex as Kubernetes? I like the platform abstraction and flexibility of k8s, it's just really heavy for many of my use cases.

chosenken 7y ago
I'd checkout HashiCorp's Nomad: https://nomadproject.io/ https://nomadproject.io/
enos_feedler 7y ago
What are your core use cases? And would you imagine growing into more complex use cases that Kubernetes makes sense for?
manigandham 7y ago
I'd advise learning the basics of Kubernetes anyway. Managed offerings like GKE take away all of the operational burden so you can just deploy your app with minimal setup, usually just 1 or a handful of YAML files.
drodgers 7y ago
I hear good things about Hashicorp Nomad from people who've used it: https://nomadproject.io/ https://nomadproject.io/ Especially if you're already using Consul, it should fit the bill perfectly.

yskchu 7y ago

> Docker is pretty much abandoning Swarm though, so wouldn't recommend that at least. > https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docke.. https://www.bretfisher.com/is-swarm-dead-answered-by-a-docke.... The post you link specifically says swarm is not dead, in like the first sentence of the post: "No. Swarm is not dead." It also says: "This was written early 2018. See my update to this video including Docker Inc. interview in late 2018, and then at DockerCon 2019 Docker again confirmed new features and commitment to Swarm. Most of their customers prefer it."

manigandham 7y ago
It's effectively dead based on usage. Just about every modern project uses Kubernetes for container orchestration while Swarm (and others like Cattle, DC/OS, etc) have decreased in popularity.
- tra3 7y ago
  Here's a commitment from Docker's new overlords to support swarm for the next 2 years: https://www.mirantis.com/blog/mirantis-will-continue-to-support-and-develop-docker-swarm/ https://www.mirantis.com/blog/mirantis-will-continue-to-supp...
  - manigandham 7y ago
    Support doesn't mean usage. Kubernetes is where the community is, not Swarm.