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Actually, no, that is not clear at all. What is clear is that Ryan Broderick demonstrated ideation of a sexual nature with underage children on multiple posts.

Actually, no, that is not clear at all. What is clear is that Ryan Broderick demonstrated ideation of a sexual nature with underage children on multiple posts. There were numerous other items from his tumblr and instagram which make it clear broderick was not being satirical. See the screengrabs captured here https://www.cernovich.com/ryan-broderick-racist-tweets-vile-jokes/ https://www.cernovich.com/ryan-broderick-racist-tweets-vile-... OR here https://www.zerohedge.com/political/buzzfeed-journo-reportedly-blogged-about-pedo-fantasies-rape-jokes-and-doxing https://www.zerohedge.com/political/buzzfeed-journo-reported... But it looks like you're willing to give a lefty a pass on behaviour that would be career ending from a conservative, which is par for the course.

geofft 7y ago
1. None of that makes it clear he was not being satirical to me. Can you explain? Again, it all seems like extremely questionable humor, and you can question the humor in good faith (and you can also argue that ironic humor still has harmful effects, etc.), and you can certainly say in good faith, "Someone who makes these kinds of jokes should not have a moderation role at Twitter." But saying that it was not humor - that Broderick was genuinely claiming to be a hebephile - is a large logical leap that seems unjustified to me. Can you justify it? (As it happens, I did read Cernovich's page to confirm that I had the correct understand of the tweet before I commented. I am more confident in my comment having read it.) 2. I'm not sure this would be career-ending for a conservative, why would it be? 3. Par for what course?
- StuntPope 7y ago
  How is taking a person who describes himself as "us hebephiles" a huge leap? Either people say what they mean or they don't. If they don't, then you also have to give a pass to every conservative off-hand remark that got their career derailed.
  - geofft 7y ago
    > How is taking a person who describes himself as "us hebephiles" a huge leap? Either people say what they mean or they don't. Genuine question. Are you familiar with the concept of jokes? Again, I am not saying it is a good joke, or a funny joke, or an appropriate joke, or a joke that should merit employment from BuzzFeed, or any such thing. I am simply saying it was intended as a joke. Do you genuinely believe that the point of that post was to earnestly petition the president? > If they don't, then you also have to give a pass to every conservative off-hand remark that got their career derailed. Sure, okay, pass given.
    - StuntPope 7y ago
      How about this one, https://web.archive.org/web/20181223004937/https://ryanhatesthis.tumblr.com/post/1315924928/veronicathenoseylady-thosekidssuck-i-dont https://web.archive.org/web/20181223004937/https://ryanhates... I'm sure he's just riffing, right?
      - geofft 7y ago
        OK, so, you're not familiar with the concept of a joke, in fact. Again - if you wanted to argue that Broderick's posts were in bad taste, sure, that's a defensible argument (and I might even agree with you). But that's not what you said. You said he's a self-proclaimed hebephile. Of course, I don't expect everyone to be familiar with 4chan-style humor. Oprah once earnestly warned her viewers about a message she received about "over 9000 penises": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7liYfhRgXGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7liYfhRgXGk Last month, Congressional candidate Regina Marston started reporting the Navy SEAL copypasta to the FBI: https://twitter.com/samosu_/status/1224169132410753024 https://twitter.com/samosu_/status/1224169132410753024 But if you're running a popular DNS host and writing books about how to protect yourself from cancel culture... yes, I expect you in particular to understand what's going on here, and I stand by my claim that you're not a credible voice.
        Traster 7y ago
        It is very clear the argument isn’t being made in good faith. It’s really not worth pursuing further - I assume the aim of these accusations are basically just hoping no one actually looks at the evidence. How could anyone view a twitter post making a personal request to the president as anything other than satirical? They couldn’t. They don’t. Its not worth talking about beyond that.

geofft 7y ago

1. None of that makes it clear he was not being satirical to me. Can you explain? Again, it all seems like extremely questionable humor, and you can question the humor in good faith (and you can also argue that ironic humor still has harmful effects, etc.), and you can certainly say in good faith, "Someone who makes these kinds of jokes should not have a moderation role at Twitter." But saying that it was not humor - that Broderick was genuinely claiming to be a hebephile - is a large logical leap that seems unjustified to me. Can you justify it? (As it happens, I did read Cernovich's page to confirm that I had the correct understand of the tweet before I commented. I am more confident in my comment having read it.) 2. I'm not sure this would be career-ending for a conservative, why would it be? 3. Par for what course?

StuntPope 7y ago
How is taking a person who describes himself as "us hebephiles" a huge leap? Either people say what they mean or they don't. If they don't, then you also have to give a pass to every conservative off-hand remark that got their career derailed.
- geofft 7y ago
  > How is taking a person who describes himself as "us hebephiles" a huge leap? Either people say what they mean or they don't. Genuine question. Are you familiar with the concept of jokes? Again, I am not saying it is a good joke, or a funny joke, or an appropriate joke, or a joke that should merit employment from BuzzFeed, or any such thing. I am simply saying it was intended as a joke. Do you genuinely believe that the point of that post was to earnestly petition the president? > If they don't, then you also have to give a pass to every conservative off-hand remark that got their career derailed. Sure, okay, pass given.
  - StuntPope 7y ago
    How about this one, https://web.archive.org/web/20181223004937/https://ryanhatesthis.tumblr.com/post/1315924928/veronicathenoseylady-thosekidssuck-i-dont https://web.archive.org/web/20181223004937/https://ryanhates... I'm sure he's just riffing, right?
    - geofft 7y ago
      OK, so, you're not familiar with the concept of a joke, in fact. Again - if you wanted to argue that Broderick's posts were in bad taste, sure, that's a defensible argument (and I might even agree with you). But that's not what you said. You said he's a self-proclaimed hebephile. Of course, I don't expect everyone to be familiar with 4chan-style humor. Oprah once earnestly warned her viewers about a message she received about "over 9000 penises": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7liYfhRgXGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7liYfhRgXGk Last month, Congressional candidate Regina Marston started reporting the Navy SEAL copypasta to the FBI: https://twitter.com/samosu_/status/1224169132410753024 https://twitter.com/samosu_/status/1224169132410753024 But if you're running a popular DNS host and writing books about how to protect yourself from cancel culture... yes, I expect you in particular to understand what's going on here, and I stand by my claim that you're not a credible voice.
      - Traster 7y ago
        It is very clear the argument isn’t being made in good faith. It’s really not worth pursuing further - I assume the aim of these accusations are basically just hoping no one actually looks at the evidence. How could anyone view a twitter post making a personal request to the president as anything other than satirical? They couldn’t. They don’t. Its not worth talking about beyond that.