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I heard Argentina as a popular place for "near-shoring", which likely wasn't very popular when this was written 3 years ago. Anyone here been using Argentinian

by admn2 7y ago

I heard Argentina as a popular place for "near-shoring", which likely wasn't very popular when this was written 3 years ago. Anyone here been using Argentinian tech talent?

powvans 7y ago
I'm based in the US and worked with a remote team in Argentina from 2013 to 2015. They were fantastic. Most of the team was based out of the company's office in Cordoba, but we also had some remote devs who lived in Buenos Aires rotate into the team. The offshore firm took great care to make sure that everyone on the team was well trained on the specifics of our project and general development processes. Last I heard they were purchased by Mercado Libre in what I'd assume was an acquihire.
jermaustin1 7y ago
I've worked with a number of Argentinian developers through using Avanade and Accenture on projects. The developers were great, even spoke decent English, but since it was through Avanade or Accenture, after 3 years of the managerial-interference, overhead, cost overruns, and contract disputes with what is considered in-scope/out-of-scope, the projects were eventually canceled. Had we just been able to hire the developers on an hourly basis, everyone would have been happy... well except the sales managers, delivery managers, development managers, and project managers. That said, I didn't care for the way that our company was billed $75-150/hr for a developer that makes $350-1200/mo, and that the developers made so little when their managers were billing so high. Early in my career, I was livid when I found out that my time was billed to the client 3x what I made, so I cant imagine how demoralizing it would be knowing you are paid 20x less than you are billed out.
- cosmodisk 7y ago
  This, sometimes has very interesting consequences. A friend worked for a company that basically moved parts of sales/customer service to a Northen African country.They hired people on a few hundred dollars a month(if that much) to sell high ticket hotel bookings sometimes going for thousands/day.The team struggled to comprehend that anyone could get a room that costs 10 times more their monthly wage.This highly affected their ability to service/sell. Eventually the entire thing got canned and moved to Europe.
Ididntdothis 7y ago
Pen testers. They were very good and the time zone makes things much easier compared to India.
rossdavidh 7y ago
I worked very briefly at a place (which was run poorly, btw, which is why I left), that used Argentinian devs for some of the work. The devs seemed good, and the similarity in time-zones compared to U.S. helped a lot with communication and coordination. I did hear, however, some discussion in the office that there was a strong suspicion that the Argentinians were working on other customers' projects during the time they were supposedly 100% on our project.
blaser-waffle 7y ago
My org has a lot of talent in LATAM. Argentina is onerous due to the ever changing financial situation (taxes, regs, currency, etc.). We do have a few bodies down there, though, and general consensus is they're competent. Chile and Mexico are generally more stable, and both the Chilean and Mexicans I've worked with remotely have been solid. We had a technical (data center) team in Mexico that only had 1 English speaker but still got stuff done quickly and timely. Also heard good things about the Zona America in Uruguay. No direct experience with it, however. Part of me thinks about sneaking away down there for a few years...
numbsafari 7y ago
When I worked as a consultant, mostly remote, working from Argentina was awesome. Buenos Aires is a great city, and the time difference is perfect for the lifestyle, as you are generally slightly ahead of the US, so you can play late and sleep in a bit while still getting a normal business hours day in.
Mandatum 7y ago
MuleSoft, acquired by Salesforce for $6.5B has a team of 600ish engineers, most of which are located in Argentina.

by admn2 7y ago

I heard Argentina as a popular place for "near-shoring", which likely wasn't very popular when this was written 3 years ago. Anyone here been using Argentinian tech talent?

powvans 7y ago

I'm based in the US and worked with a remote team in Argentina from 2013 to 2015. They were fantastic. Most of the team was based out of the company's office in Cordoba, but we also had some remote devs who lived in Buenos Aires rotate into the team. The offshore firm took great care to make sure that everyone on the team was well trained on the specifics of our project and general development processes. Last I heard they were purchased by Mercado Libre in what I'd assume was an acquihire.

jermaustin1 7y ago

I've worked with a number of Argentinian developers through using Avanade and Accenture on projects. The developers were great, even spoke decent English, but since it was through Avanade or Accenture, after 3 years of the managerial-interference, overhead, cost overruns, and contract disputes with what is considered in-scope/out-of-scope, the projects were eventually canceled. Had we just been able to hire the developers on an hourly basis, everyone would have been happy... well except the sales managers, delivery managers, development managers, and project managers. That said, I didn't care for the way that our company was billed $75-150/hr for a developer that makes $350-1200/mo, and that the developers made so little when their managers were billing so high. Early in my career, I was livid when I found out that my time was billed to the client 3x what I made, so I cant imagine how demoralizing it would be knowing you are paid 20x less than you are billed out.

cosmodisk 7y ago
This, sometimes has very interesting consequences. A friend worked for a company that basically moved parts of sales/customer service to a Northen African country.They hired people on a few hundred dollars a month(if that much) to sell high ticket hotel bookings sometimes going for thousands/day.The team struggled to comprehend that anyone could get a room that costs 10 times more their monthly wage.This highly affected their ability to service/sell. Eventually the entire thing got canned and moved to Europe.

Ididntdothis 7y ago

Pen testers. They were very good and the time zone makes things much easier compared to India.

rossdavidh 7y ago

I worked very briefly at a place (which was run poorly, btw, which is why I left), that used Argentinian devs for some of the work. The devs seemed good, and the similarity in time-zones compared to U.S. helped a lot with communication and coordination. I did hear, however, some discussion in the office that there was a strong suspicion that the Argentinians were working on other customers' projects during the time they were supposedly 100% on our project.

blaser-waffle 7y ago

My org has a lot of talent in LATAM. Argentina is onerous due to the ever changing financial situation (taxes, regs, currency, etc.). We do have a few bodies down there, though, and general consensus is they're competent. Chile and Mexico are generally more stable, and both the Chilean and Mexicans I've worked with remotely have been solid. We had a technical (data center) team in Mexico that only had 1 English speaker but still got stuff done quickly and timely. Also heard good things about the Zona America in Uruguay. No direct experience with it, however. Part of me thinks about sneaking away down there for a few years...

numbsafari 7y ago

When I worked as a consultant, mostly remote, working from Argentina was awesome. Buenos Aires is a great city, and the time difference is perfect for the lifestyle, as you are generally slightly ahead of the US, so you can play late and sleep in a bit while still getting a normal business hours day in.

Mandatum 7y ago

MuleSoft, acquired by Salesforce for $6.5B has a team of 600ish engineers, most of which are located in Argentina.