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True, and I’m surprised the POTUS has yet to announce the closing of air traffic from and to Italy. Although, the zones under lockdown are 10 towns in Lombardy

True, and I’m surprised the POTUS has yet to announce the closing of air traffic from and to Italy. Although, the zones under lockdown are 10 towns in Lombardy (the region where Milan is), and I guess they’re not the cities most visited by tourists. Also, there is no information about the patient zero, but Lombardy (and especially Milan) has a huge presence of Chinese citizens and I am not surprised it all started there.

duckqlz 7y ago
Viruses do not discriminate based on race and not all travellers who have brought the virus abroad have been Chinese. Saying things like “there are a lot of Chinese so I’m not surprised” is a very dangerous path to go down. Sad to see this on HN
- SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
  Viruses don't discriminate, but immigrants (and descendants of immigrants) do tend to visit their original home countries (and/or ancestor's home countries) more than the rest of the population. People of Chinese descent living in Italy are more likely to visit China than people of Italian descent in Italy (or Irish or whatever non-Chinese descent). Areas with high concentrations of Chinese people are thus more likely to have been exposed to a traveler than some other areas. There's nothing racist about this. Of course hot spots for transmission like airports will spread it beyond the Chinese communities.
- pasquinelli 7y ago
  Viruses can discriminate by race.
- SamReidHughes 7y ago
  Indians got wiped out by Smallpox, for instance.
- parliament32 7y ago
  It's not about race at all -- China isn't exactly a vacation destination; very few non-Chinese visit China. Considering the lunar new year was timed right with this outbreak (and the Chinese tradition to visit relatives on LNY), it's not ridiculous to assume that areas with higher Chinese populations have a higher chance of having the virus. This whole outrage culture thing needs to go away.
jacquesm 7y ago
> I guess they’re not the cities most visited by tourists. https://www.businessinsider.nl/coronavirus-italy-spread-death-toll-tries-to-control-5-2020-2?international=true&r=US https://www.businessinsider.nl/coronavirus-italy-spread-deat... Milan and Venice are in that region.
daxorid 7y ago
>True, and I’m surprised the POTUS has yet to announce the closing of air traffic from and to Italy. You're surprised that the guy who tweets every all time high in the DJIA would be hesitant to do anything that might compromise the only thing (confidence and irrational exuberance) that is holding up a bubble trading at a Shiller PE of 32?

duckqlz 7y ago

Viruses do not discriminate based on race and not all travellers who have brought the virus abroad have been Chinese. Saying things like “there are a lot of Chinese so I’m not surprised” is a very dangerous path to go down. Sad to see this on HN

SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
Viruses don't discriminate, but immigrants (and descendants of immigrants) do tend to visit their original home countries (and/or ancestor's home countries) more than the rest of the population. People of Chinese descent living in Italy are more likely to visit China than people of Italian descent in Italy (or Irish or whatever non-Chinese descent). Areas with high concentrations of Chinese people are thus more likely to have been exposed to a traveler than some other areas. There's nothing racist about this. Of course hot spots for transmission like airports will spread it beyond the Chinese communities.
pasquinelli 7y ago
Viruses can discriminate by race.
SamReidHughes 7y ago
Indians got wiped out by Smallpox, for instance.
parliament32 7y ago
It's not about race at all -- China isn't exactly a vacation destination; very few non-Chinese visit China. Considering the lunar new year was timed right with this outbreak (and the Chinese tradition to visit relatives on LNY), it's not ridiculous to assume that areas with higher Chinese populations have a higher chance of having the virus. This whole outrage culture thing needs to go away.

jacquesm 7y ago

> I guess they’re not the cities most visited by tourists. https://www.businessinsider.nl/coronavirus-italy-spread-death-toll-tries-to-control-5-2020-2?international=true&r=US https://www.businessinsider.nl/coronavirus-italy-spread-deat... Milan and Venice are in that region.

daxorid 7y ago

>True, and I’m surprised the POTUS has yet to announce the closing of air traffic from and to Italy. You're surprised that the guy who tweets every all time high in the DJIA would be hesitant to do anything that might compromise the only thing (confidence and irrational exuberance) that is holding up a bubble trading at a Shiller PE of 32?