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I didn't think joining HN, I'd be spending so much time answering questions from young people, but hey, it is somewhat satisfying in lieu of more technical and
by eengstrom 16y ago
I didn't think joining HN, I'd be spending so much time answering questions from young people, but hey, it is somewhat satisfying in lieu of more technical and human science discussion.
I'm 38 and I took a GED to leave high school for a programming job. I didn't realize until my 30's how much fun college probably would be. I'm not going to discuss the merit or benefit of a degree, because it is a highly personal evaluation. I simply wish I had the experience my friends had with some of the stories and adventures, friends and social life. I didn't take my first real vacation until I was 33 - almost 17 years of non-stop 80-100 hour weeks.
That being said, I'm also old enough to look at a post like this and feel both frustration and excitement for your position. Statistics about a college degree earning more over a lifetime, don't lie, you will simply have an easier time in life in almost every way if you complete your degree.
Here's the "tough love" part: You have provided nothing to indicate to a reader whether you would be an asset at 19, other than passable writing skills. Not that I wouldn't hire you based on this criteria, but why should I when the market is heavily saturated with experienced people?
Being 19 with no work experience, college education, deep technical talent and on top, you bore easily? Honestly, no, and you haven't made a good case in your post. One more semi-nasty point: product and business development people generally have relevant experience in developing products and sales, its a skilled field, not something to do because you can't program.
I'm glad you're excited to move to San Francisco, as a 9th generation native of the Bay Area, it is an awesome place to live (this damn rain, notwithstanding), but it is a very expensive, very challenging place to live without a network of loved ones, patient relatives, a sure source of income or a solid job offer.
Since you've indicated you have no money saved, I'm assuming you'll try and borrow funds to get here; make sure you let them know you'll probably need more and try to avoid burning any bridges with family or friends.
Because the Bay Area is very populated, the unemployment here is very high and I have friends who have been without an interview, even in technology for well over a year. My cost of living is very high compared to most of the country, public transportation is decent, but not expansive. There are far easier places to strike-out to with a wild-hair and not be eaten alive.
I am, however, envious of your youth and future. I wouldn't TRADE mine, but darn ain't it fun and exciting to be 19, have no prospects, no responsibilities and have the world in front of you.
Take older to younger advice; slow down. Make a plan, save your money, network remotely, visit with your savings and complete your degree. Build something that will impress people, even if its a website discussing your perspective on product and business development.
- mindcrime 16y agoAs a 37 year old, I'd go along with almost all of what eengstrom said, in general. But there is a counter-point... being to cautious and patient can be a risk in it's own right. In my own case, I look back and feel that I waited too long to indulge my "wild hair" and move to a place with more opportunity. Now I'm struggling to deal with a world where a 37 year old is considered "old" to be a startup founder, and worrying about the real possibility of age discrimination as I continue forward in the technology profession. I'm not recommending going off half-cocked on a whim or anything, but there's something to be said for being aggressive about pursuing things. And unfortunately nobody can really tell you how to judge when a decision is being too aggressive or just silly... judgment is one of those things you really only gain with experience. All I can really tell you is to study hard, consider all the alternatives, solicit as much information as you can from various sources, and then make the best decision you can. In the end, whether you succeed or not isn't going to come down to any one decision in isolation anyway (well, 99% of the time anyway. A decision to start imbibing crack cocaine is pretty much a one way ticket to failure, but I hope you get my drift.) save your money Definitely this. Building a safety-net / nest-egg will both allow you the confidence to make some risky decisions at times, and may just save your ass one day if one of those decisions fails to pay off.
- eengstrom 16y agoHah! Me? Too cautious? I would never have listened to my own advice, but then I had a job in hand and money saved, which seems an entirely different scenario than the OP. How, also are you too old? Go to your pitch meetings like I plan to: I will be surrounded by octogenarians in overalls and Victorian wimples! Social camouflage!
- mindcrime 16y agoHah! Me? Too cautious? I would never have listened to my own advice, but then I had a job in hand and money saved, which seems an entirely different scenario than the OP. :-) How, also are you too old? Go to your pitch meetings like I plan to: I will be surrounded by octogenarians in overalls and Victorian wimples! Social camouflage! Oh don't get me wrong... I don't think (or at least acknowledge) being too old, but I am cognizant that there is a certain sort of bias towards youngsters in this field. I'm still thrashing away like mad on my project, and I'll be pitching it as aggressively as I possibly can (or harder) when the time comes. If anything, in my case, age is just making me hungrier exactly because I have that "I haven't done anything yet" feeling.